Newbietexecom24 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Morning everyone, With it now being darker, I've got to be more security conscious than before and think about family safety, especially with high burglary rates around our area. My main goal is to somehow enable the alarm to be activated at night-time, so that if someone breaks in downstairs, then the alarm triggers. My current setup is 3 pirs in living/kitchen rooms and 1 in hallway, which is also where the keypad is located. I also have a pir detector on the upstairs landing. All of the alarm settings can be controlled with my pc as I have wintex installed and it's networked to the alarm. Here is the dilemma:- 1. If we enable the keypad from downstairs, then once the alarm is activated, the landing pir will trigger if there is movement. So firstly I want to be able to disable this pir for the night, so that family can still use bathroom. 2. How can I disable the alarm via the keypad, when we wake up in the morning, without triggering the hallway pir? Thank you for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Swb code name gorilla will be on scene soon be patient 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) He uses the name 'giraffe' now... What you need to do is make the hallway detector act as 'entry exit' at night, so that during the day, with the alarm set if someone comes in through a window etc... it causes or confirms an alarm, but at night, i.e. when you come down in the morning, it only starts the entry/exit timer as if you had just come in the front door so you can enter your code / fob. As you have wintex this should be very simple, but I don't really fit texecom so will leave the fine details to our David Attenborough hating, TSI native wildlife. My only caveat would be, how young are the (I assume) kids, do they currently use the alarm, will they be going down the stairs in the AM and not knowing what to do with the alarm? Edited November 15, 2016 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I am thinking of setting up a 090 technical number, what do you reckon Al?... Anyway, how you program this would be dependant on a front door contact. You haven't mentioned if you have one so Hall will be Entry and Landing would be off in part set. In this configuration you can walk about on the landing and then the timer will start upon entering the hall. This would also be the same if a burglar entered the hall BTW. Have you installed you own system or are you just querying if it's possible for an installer to do? We are also assuming you have a Texecom Premier 24 from your username but you haven't actually named what panel or how old it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Well if you can pick a number which spells giraffe on keypad that would be great , that way when trump does the deal you will toll free 1-800-giraffe I want 20% for the idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbietexecom24 Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) Hi everyone, Thanks for your help. Sorry I forgot to mention that I also have a detector on the door. I set this alarm up myself, but with a lot of help from a friend, whom is now not available as he's gone abroad. I have some understanding, but not adept at using wintex, other than to change code etc. What I've done though to help you guys is attach 3 screenshots of wintex, showing the Front Door (Door Contact), Hallway & Landing settings. I hope this helps, but if you require any other info, then please let me know. Thank you. PS. I'VE BLACKED OUT THE REST OF THE ZONES Edited November 15, 2016 by Newbietexecom24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I fail to see the need to blank out the other zones. This is a Premier Elite 24 so fairly new. All you need is to check Part 1 Omit on Landing save to panel and then use Code, Part and Yes to arm for bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbietexecom24 Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 Thanks for that. So other than enabling Part 1 Omit for the Landing sensor, do I need to change any of the other settings on the remaining sensors? What is Part 1 Omit btw? Also I don't use a code as I have a fob to scan. But the way it's setup is that as soon as it's scanned, the alarm starts it's countdown, i.e. no options. This is because the missus doesn't know how to use it and was setup for her. I'm sometimes out due to work reasons for a few days every month, so she has to use it. I know this is a bit of a long-shot, but is there any way that it automatically can detect by the time that it needs to part-arm for the bed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 You could switch on Auto Part Arm, but I have had mixed results with it and not used it in a while. This means that sensor (Landing) will be Omitted while Part Arm 1 is active. From your uploaded pictures I can't see anything else that needs changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbietexecom24 Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 How would part-arm omit effect the alarm during the day? Will the landing sensor not work at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Hopefully the system is off during the day, if you mean while full armed this does what it says, it's fully armed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Rest is blanked out , he didn't want you to see vibration sensor on gorilla cage, the guy is being sensitive to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny May Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Hi... you could make this 'idiot proof' by adding a smart key. You would also need a wireless expander, seems overkill but means you can full set, unset and part set from your bedroom meaning you wouldn't need to go downstairs to unset. Other than that unsetting with a prox fob there aren't many other ways to make it easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbietexecom24 Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 @sixwheeledbeast - But the alarm is set to auto arm as soon as the fob is scanned, so I don't get a choice to choose part or full as I think it automatically sets it to full arm. I've tried it after enabling Part 1 Omit, but it still triggers off. Also in order to actually arm it once the alarm fob has been scanned, I have to open the front door and then close it. This is the only time the alarm then fully-arms. @al-yeti - LOL! I only blanked stuff, because I just wasn't sure what was okay to post...sorry @Danny May - Problem with wireless extender is you have to always leave the internet on, but we turn ours off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 A wireless expander has nothing to do with WiFi. but is an expensive option for what you need. As an aside there is little point in switching your WiFi off you are possibly stopping equipment in your home from updating etc. Have you tried it with Auto Part Arm on? If you can't get Auto Part Arm to work you will have to switch off Auto Yes on the fobs to use the part set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 So auto yes , is like disabling manager / user menu so it doesn't give you an option of what to do when enabled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Sort of, you can also disable the user menu separately. Auto Yes will press Yes automatically to any action after a a valid user code/fob. There is a separate user menu flag to disable the user menu for standard users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbietexecom24 Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 Morning everyone, thank you for your replies. I have 3 users setup - MASTER USER, MYSELF & WIFE. Although my missus's fob is auto arm, mine isn't. I used mine to do the same thing, but it hasn't worked. I have an idea....Rather than play about with the current users, I suggest that we setup a brand-new user called BED-TIME and then set it up totally dedicated for arming the alarm at night. Is this possible and if so, can you please guide me? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Not possible, as I say read the manual or my posts above carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbietexecom24 Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 Thanks sixwheelbeast and al-yeti. I followed your instructions to the dot. It still doesn't work. I've even disabled the auto function on the missus phone to see if this would resolve the issue, but it doesn't. FYI, when I scan the prox fob, I then choose BED ARM 1. The alarm is then wanting me to open and close the exit door, so that it assumes the user has walked out of the house. I do this and once it's armed, as soon as I walk past the Hallway sensor, it triggers off. I don't even get to the landing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 So with Auto Part Arm set on for Area A you still have an issue? Have you set the Area Arming Mode to Entry/Exit. I believe it uses to Exit Timer to decide when to Part Arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Default and start again , if swb says it works it should work, you missed something or have done something else preventing it from working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Its not on final door is it? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Sounds like it... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbietexecom24 Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 I think it's easier if I posted screenshots for you to check. Please let me know if you can spot any mistakes. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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