BveshPatel Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Hi, Just wondered if anyone has installed a pyronix Enforcer by the internal front door? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Owl Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 As the panel/keypad is one unit then yes, we've done it in the past. Upto customer end of the day, but i've put them in cupboards too, whole point of the fob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Hi, Just wondered if anyone has installed a pyronix Enforcer by the internal front door? Thanks Just remember if panel is twatted, **** all will happen and pyronix dont give a ****. Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrolhead Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Some days i would say the best location for an enforcer is the bin, but they are cheap, and people want cheap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 would an enforcer perform any better in that way than say a yale? and that's cheaper Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secureiam Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) what i expected if you dont have a remote fob then it has to go next to the entry door, or you wire a remote keypad into the main unit, and have the main unit elsewhere. its two way Edited September 27, 2015 by secureiam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 enforcer is by far better than a yale. But adding keyfobs and wired rkp adds to the cost which most customers dont want. Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiml Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 would an enforcer perform any better in that way than say a yale? and that's cheaper It is grade 2. It has a digi and a supervised bell. So it does the best it can at the grade. If the risk assessment thinks the hall is not the best location then there are options for it to be located elsewhere. So yes. It is better than yale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 It is grade 2. It has a digi and a supervised bell. So it does the best it can at the grade. If the risk assessment thinks the hall is not the best location then there are options for it to be located elsewhere. So yes. It is better than yale.Jim was a reply to the cheapness comment not a comparison in any way Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrolhead Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Its a fantastic product, and i love the looks and features, all my customers really like intelligent set and it has gained me a few referrals, i really like it, i want to keep selling it, just the reliability is a real kick in the balls, the time wasted returning to replace failed pir, keyfobs, sirens, keypads, panels under warranty or having to charge a customer to change something they only bought 20 months ago harms my business. Texecom and honeywell are noticably more reliable and the price difference is less than a lost service callout. Could you feed that back up the chain Jim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 How many referrals has the reliability cost you? Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrolhead Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) Dont know. The referrals are customers showing the intelligent set feature to friends, then the friends asking for my number and calling me. The reliability issues i dont think has cost me sales as i return immediately and put things right but that lost time/diesel has come out my pocket. Things that dont fail anywhere near as often with other kit. The stuff that has failed under 2 years old most i replaced at materials cost only let the labour slide as i also do cctv, a/v and networking business with those clients and i don't want to spoil those for the sake of a few quid. Anything over 2 years or 1 off customers are billed though. Slightly ot, has anyone had any success sorting enforcer backlights? Got a few with knackered backlights that are otherwise ok. Edited October 6, 2015 by petrolhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 If I had any system and had faults with it I wouldn't recommend it, regardless of how efficient the installer was. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Other than a couple of keyfobs, i have not had any issue with reliability. Their own batteries are ****. Piss poor bell protection. jamming to sensitive. Just had 2 leds fail in a euro mini rkp, first time that has happened. Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Lol, got to love direct marketing, this just popped up on my FB feed, have a gander... https://www.facebook.com/GPRSCCTV/photos/pb.832031903488781.-2207520000.1444171911./849107565114548/?type=3&theater Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 yeeeeeee har! Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 thats not an enforcer though? Other than a couple of keyfobs, i have not had any issue with reliability.Their own batteries are ****.Piss poor bell protection.jamming to sensitive.Just had 2 leds fail in a euro mini rkp, first time that has happened. still using it then? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 these are... Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simlec Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 If you look down his page, the blue cat5e clipped on the front of someone's house (could be his) made me laugh, blends in very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I was going to put that on but was scared of upsetting James as it wasn't Enforcer... Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElecTech Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 FB_IMG_1444196468360.jpgFB_IMG_1444196498671.jpgFB_IMG_1444196503267.jpgthese are... wow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 thats not an enforcer though? still using it then? Unfortunetly, its probably the best of a bad bunch. I am doing as roger and binning their batteries, dont think i will sell hkc round here, i dont want to keep hoping from manufacture to another, having enough of a balll ache with cctv ****. Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Unfortunetly, its probably the best of a bad bunch. I am doing as roger and binning their batteries, dont think i will sell hkc round here, i dont want to keep hoping from manufacture to another, having enough of a balll ache with cctv ****. so you think its **** but better than other ****? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Its a shame you cant polish a turd, the enforcer is just about there, but needs tweaking a tad, but as per usual pyronix dont give a ****. been well and truly ****** over with tex and risco wireless, so really only leaves hkc and enforcer. Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Its a shame you cant polish a turd, the enforcer is just about there, but needs tweaking a tad, but as per usual pyronix dont give a ****. been well and truly ****** over with tex and risco wireless, so really only leaves hkc and enforcer. fixed... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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