norman Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Ditto Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 The operative word here is 'probably'. Please stick with us, I hope Dave opts for something from Security Warehouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I wont participate in a thread about equipment that is probably stolen. does that mean were going back to being a forum for real alarm men then,amen to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Dave, it it's new, as suggested, then it carries a guarantee. as far as description is concerned you have a case on ebay because the item wasn't as described..if ever you need to use it. Why not send it back and go to one of the wholesalers for 'the real thing' ? Â QFA Quote www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 My remarks to Admin also apply equally to yourself Norman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I wont participate in a thread about equipment that is probably stolen. Â Same here said to much already......... Quote www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Hi Nova, what does QFA mean ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 My remarks to Admin also apply equally to yourself Norman. charlie6, if it's new and boxed then it is stolen, ADT are not a wholesaler. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Hi Nova, what does QFA mean ?  Quoted For Agreement Quote www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Appear to have hit the nail on the head again Norman. Thanks Nova. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Norm you're so ace Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwdave Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 The firmware on the Ethernet Module is 2.11 Quote 'till the next question ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Gee thanks DD Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 de nada Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dwdave Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 Not sure if its of any help to those still reading but I have just copied off the users list and it had a couple of users in the system still. Â Im guessing that Mike & Claire no longer needed their system for some reason and that ties in with the paypal details. Â The zones list was clear though. Quote 'till the next question ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Not sure if its of any help to those still reading but I have just copied off the users list and it had a couple of users in the system still. Â Im guessing that Mike & Claire no longer needed their system for some reason and that ties in with the paypal details. Â The zones list was clear though. really all the zones were still in and you only have 2 faults when coming out of eng mode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwdave Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 No the zone list was clear - blank - default - INTRUDER and showed Tamper O/C - but I cleared them. I couldnt clear the LineFaults. Quote 'till the next question ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 So it could have been an ADT panel left at a property, which the owners had purchased.. in that case they have every right to sell it. But why sell it if it's working correctly ? Your car working OK..in that case I'll buy it ? Not working OK... sell asap..to someone else !! simple isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 No the zone list was clear - blank - default - INTRUDER and showed Tamper O/C - but I cleared them. I couldnt clear the LineFaults. so its a new defaulted panel with 2 users still progd in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Open case eBay, but you can't return panel though pending investigation of who owns it , maybe adt will say keep it just tell us who sold it to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwdave Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 or its a used panel that has been partially cleared? Â I would say that the box is a bit scruffy and I've been told it should have come with resistors etc but it didnt. Â It may point towards the panel being used ? Quote 'till the next question ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Dave, please return this item via the ebay scheme and get a refund. Please do not buy from ebay unless you are absolutely familiar with the item you are purchasing. I mentioned above that contrary to popular opinion this panel is not stolen and the owner has every right to off load it, it is used and it is faulty. How much do you value your own time... £20 an hour...£40... you may well be enjoying your projects and I appreciate that, but in the end time is not on your side.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwdave Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Do they have serial numbers? I'll contact ADT directly. Quote 'till the next question ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I endorse all the previous posts made by the professionals, but allow me to pass on a 'ditty' from my own experiences as a jobbing troubleshooter... A installer takes one look at a panel, decides it's above him, sells the owner a new panel (one which he only has ever worked on)and suggests to the owner "..you can get a few quid for the old one on ebay"..Reading the previous posts it's as simple as that. I removed a panel recently and told them to bin the old one (not 'put it on ebay). There is not a bit of need to contact ADT, but that's your choice (what do you want ADT to tell you ?) When you return an item on ebay raise a complaint ticket..that usually gets the seller to sit up, but it's wiser to contact the seller first and tell them you are returning the item and require the return address..you don't have to give a reason..If you want one try using " not fit for purpose " (sale of goods act). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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