Gabs Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Hello everybody! I have a question for anybody who knows about the Risco Novagard 4 bell box. I've seen them on houses with 2 red flashing LEDs they all seem to be working correctly but the one on our house doesn't have any LEDs flashing at all. It is connected to a Pyronix Paragon Plus alarm panel which is working fine and the alarm gets used. I have no Idea how old it is but I'm guessing mid 90s because of the colour of the bell box and the type of panel. As far as I know since we moved to our house in 2002 it has never had any LEDs flashing then ether. Here is a link to the picture:http://www.riscogroup.com/uk/sites/default/files/GT%20Products_NovaGard%204%20Cover%20WhWh.jpg Any help would be much appreciated on solving the mystery of the bell box. Gabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Does the rest of the bell function Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabs Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 Yes, it all works fine siren and strobe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Unless its in tamper id say ur less are goosed. Perhaps the previous owner had them disabled Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabs Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) I thought that the company who installed it may of disabled them but I did wonder why. It could be a tamper fault because whenever the alarm is set a red alarm led starts flashing on the panel Edited June 14, 2015 by Gabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) I've forgotten what that bell does now - did a tamper disable the leds? Can't remember, must have fitted tons, esp the 4... Thinking about it certainly pre-EN I'm sure the LEDs carried on with at least the front cover off, I'm certain. Edited June 14, 2015 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabs Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 The alarm has never gone off and shown a tamper fault it continues to work correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistle Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 If in tameper the Nova 4 LEDs flash faster and not one side to the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Ah but since when? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 The alarm has never gone off and shown a tamper fault it continues to work correctly it isnt working correctly if it has a tamper fault Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabs Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 The panel has never shown a tamper though. Is it possible to disable them? That's the only reason I can think of because they are not flashing and it's not a tamper fault Is it possible that an early version of the bell box didn't have any LED s at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 why fuss about the led's? just buy a new sounder? its either knacked, led's on fly lead which have rotted off, or made from components fitted in a decoy nova 4, Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 or made from components fitted in a decoy nova 4, true seen this enough times, CQRs bodged into texe cases, strange what some people do! Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I have made made the worlds loudest odyssey 3 by stripping a initial EWD as I could not fathom how to get a - trigger from the Aritech controls... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Didn't fancy using a relay? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Didn't fancy using a relay? didn't have one with me, city centre job, f'kin loud though... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabs Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 I thought the bell box may of been home built by the security company which I was hoping they wouldn't have done. The bell box makes a very fast hi-lo tone is that what the Novagard bell boxes sound like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 a few on quid on ebay will buy you enough leds to light your bellbox up like a xmas tree... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabs Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 I think I might just take it down. It's not very loud anyway. Any Opinions on the Ventcroft Compact Classic? Fancy fitting one of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabs Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) I'm trying to solve the problem of our Risco Novagard 4 not having any flashing LEDs. Is it possible that Risco started making the Novagard just as a plastic housing without any components in at all and companies would have to put in a siren, strobe and tamper? Or did Risco Make it as one whole bell box with all the electronics fitted? Thanks Edited June 16, 2015 by Gabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I'm trying to solve the problem of our Risco Novagard 4 not having any flashing LEDs. Is it possible that Risco started making the Novagard just as a plastic housing without any components in at all and companies would have to put in a siren, strobe and tamper? Or did Risco Make it as one whole bell box with all the electronics fitted? Thanks topics merged, see post 12 ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy82 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I'm trying to solve the problem of our Risco Novagard 4 not having any flashing LEDs. Is it possible that Risco started making the Novagard just as a plastic housing without any components in at all and companies would have to put in a siren, strobe and tamper? Or did Risco Make it as one whole bell box with all the electronics fitted? Thanks More than likely as a dummy or decoy box, it would look identical but would be empty inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabs Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 The Novagard on our house makes a very fast hi-lo tone. If anyone knows what they sound like it that it? or do they sound different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) theres was different models with electronic horn or pizeos (upto 4) just treat yourself- https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/pyronix-invincibell-x-grade-3-blue-back-plate-p-4011.html https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/pyronix-invincibell-sounder-cover-white-p-3511.html Edited June 16, 2015 by MrHappy Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabs Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 Thanks. So it's probably just a home built bell box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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