norman Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 No problem, I didn't take it personally. Not sure what I'd recommend as 'future proof' but I think you need to 1st decide on your kit of choice and then explain to the customer the benefits of it. Easier to be a specialist that way instead of a jack of all fitting what the customer wants, after all you are the expert, not them. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 While I agree one way cheap wireless is pants, the argument on wired being future proof is slightly flawed. You don't know what tech will be like in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Honeywell still solid commercial panel, but it's falling behind for residential fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt6697 Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Totally agreed!, but do you see where im coming from in terms of future maintenance? say honeywell discontinued there wireless detectors for the galaxy 2 you would not be totally stuck as you can still add wired detectors to the system, or they could alternatively bring out a new RF module?. But say you have a system with limited numbers of wired zones and a one that does not include the flexibility for upgrade modules then the client would have to get a whole new system, there's also the cost of parts to be considered a wireless external sounder is around £100, but wired is like £25 Also doesn't this leave the industry becoming more widely open to DIY people saying they're engineers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt6697 Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 I think the only way to push this problem out is by providing clients with maintenance contracts on all wired systems, so parts and labor are included!. This means the client would overall benefit from saving money and it also puts a stop to jo blogs coming in! Not only this you as the installer are securing your jobs!, say you charged X amount a year per client & multiply it by say 5 years, that's a nice tidy profit the clients happy & your happy and keeps a constant flow of work coming in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Not only this they're taking work from me by saying they will call emergency services from a telephone dialler system that calls them? is this legal?? if it calls an ARC and the installer is SSAIB or NSI but its Digi not dialer then yes. The Police will not accept non confirmed signals though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I detest wireless intruder alarms. It's a shame many new engineers are not having the opportunity to learn how to wire systems in all the different building types and environments many of us have been used to over the years. I came across a scantronic radio system last month. A rear fire door was being taken out and replaced by builders. I was to disconnect the contact and fit on new door. I was late onsite and the builders had already finished and taken the door away. The panel showed no response to it disappearing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 if it calls an ARC and the installer is SSAIB or NSI but its Digi not dialer then yes. The Police will not accept non confirmed signals though Not quite right. Quote www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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