PSE Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Leave the lids off everything in commissioning mode, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyUK Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Leave the lids off everything in commissioning mode, Â Thanks PSE. Â With regard to putting it into commissioning mode, as devices will be learnt when I get to site, do you mean pressing Omit to bring up the learn function (or Engineer Utilities > Configure Radio), or is there a command to actually put the unit into commission mode? I've not found that in the manual yet. Edited April 16, 2015 by SparkyUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Configure Radio is for old gear. Use the new learn function. With the lid off the receiver it's in commissioning mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyUK Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Configure Radio is for old gear. Use the new learn function. With the lid off the receiver it's in commissioning mode. Â Thanks, appreciate the help from everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Only ever fitted it once but agree learn location is unimportant, lets face it on most installs you'd do it next to the rkp / panel anyway. Its the commission mode thats important. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyUK Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 Only ever fitted it once but agree learn location is unimportant, lets face it on most installs you'd do it next to the rkp / panel anyway. Its the commission mode thats important. Â Yes, I think I was more concerned that once I'd learnt/configured at the office, would the mesh be affected once on site - as in did the sensors learn their route/path back to the panel and not adjust for this once on site after a power down. From what you guys have said, sounds like leaving it powered up with the tampers open for 15/20 mins on site, they'll reestablish the mesh in the new building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSE Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Sounds like leaving it powered up with the tampers open for 15/20 mins on site, they'll reestablish the mesh in the new building.  15 - 20 is not advised, Leave it for at least half hour, It will re-establish itself just fine. If you have Ricochet monitor and a laptop available, You will see the system live as its sorting itself out..  Learn all devices at home / office Go to site & Install it Enable commissioning mode Open all lids on devices Go have a long brew and tidy your van up for 30 mins After 30-35 minutes close all lids up Walk test to confirm detection is satisfactory Disable commissioning mode Program any other settings to design spec Save profile on laptop " If available" Do your paperwork, Collect your money...  Job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyUK Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 Thanks for that, appreciate it. I guess I'm a bit late to the wireless game. How did you know my van was messy? All coded and configured although getting an Expander 1 Tamper error and "box" tamper despite all tamper loops looking ok so got a few things to check off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyUK Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 Thanks again for the advice, the alarm was configured before site visit and is all installed and relatively OK. Â However, if I may ask another question: Â Areas:Â When I used to install the wired-based Premiers, it was just zones, and I assigned them to part-arm or full-arm, and that was about it. Â Now, the new Elite 24-W's are looking like you code zone(s) into an area, and then you set or unset the area. Is my understanding correct? Â The 24-W is offering me two areas, but for a 14-zone system, which doesn't need segregating into "areas", this seems overkill. Is there a way to simply code the zones, and set up omit zones for the Part Sets, or do I have to do this through the Areas now? This leads me to think I have to set up one Area for Full-arm, and the second area for, say, Night arm? Â I am possibly getting myself muddled here. Any advice welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 There are 3 parts sets in each area. Just ignore the areas (put them all back to A) and use the part sets like you have done before. The Elite version of the 24, now has areas as well, this brings the menus in line with the bigger panels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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