al-yeti Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Not sensitive, I think people take forums and constructive critisism to heart too quickly. Purely providing some quality instead of banter. I can banter like the next tool, but if members answer every topic with pages of banter, you just phishing people off and more importantly provide no content. Worth pointing out IMO. Sorted no problem You guys ever etch your own pcb's when making circuits or was it Vero board was it called where you cut the tracks etc Used to be all good then industry changed..... I used to buy the pellets and the pens Mark it all out drill it No time of course now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 You guys ever etch your own pcb's when making circuits or was it Vero board was it called where you cut the tracks etc Used to be all good then industry changed..... I used to buy the pellets and the pens Mark it all out drill it No time of course now Never made anything for work, I have etched stuff in the past but prefer stripboard now. Less messy and the tanks take up too much room. You can make some good stuff pretty quickly with it. You just have to get your head around being economical with the strips. http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34295-make-your-own-noise-free-power-supply-unit/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Yep used to have a home tank, the lot. Stopped using it when I moved, sold it to a radio ham and not really felt the need since Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Never ectched a pcb, but used strip board in the past. Trouble is most stuff can be found ready built now for next to nothing so not worth the trouble of build it your self. Quote Trade Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 As above, modules from fleebay are actually quite well made too, and the arduino craze only makes it better pricing and quality. Just bought 3 mic modules I would have made myself in the past for pennies, and they use proper branded preamp ICs Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDT Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Hi As led's use very low current and if the van and battery are in good shape and is a 096 battery which most renault nissan and vauxhall vans are the ah rating is up near 60 to 70ah and a led strip uses little current but you could measure it to see the amout it uses. how long will they be on with out the engine running. Also I suspect even using a split charge relay with a alternator able to push out 90-150 amps will damage the battery. I would buy a proper charger for that type off battery even if its one that plugs in to the 12v socket on your van. A quick fact if you use jump leads from a car to a motorbike battery with the car running it will damage the bike battery. ( I supect the same will happen to a security battery ) If it was me I would fit the led's and connect up but use the main battery power and possible up grade the van battery to a AGM 096 these have about 800 amp cranking power and 90ah. I will be amazed if you even make it go flat with just an led strip running at 1/2 amp looking quickly at a set i found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 As led's use very low current and if the van and battery are in good shape and is a 096 battery which most renault nissan and vauxhall vans are the ah rating is up near 60 to 70ah and a led strip uses little current but you could measure it to see the amout it uses. how long will they be on with out the engine running.I expect a van of that size to have a type 017 battery, but I don't see that being an issue here anyway. I was referring to current of the LED's regarding using the existing wiring feed, so not to overload the loom. LED's should take less current than the existing festoon type bulb if you are to replace that. Also I suspect even using a split charge relay with a alternator able to push out 90-150 amps will damage the battery. I would buy a proper charger for that type off battery even if its one that plugs in to the 12v socket on your van.I was expecting to use a car type battery and not an SLA for the split charge setup. This is worth pointing out a split charge unit is designed for two automotive batteries and not our SLA's If it was me I would fit the led's and connect up but use the main battery power and possible up grade the van battery to a AGM 096 these have about 800 amp cranking power and 90ah. I will be amazed if you even make it go flat with just an led strip running at 1/2 amp looking quickly at a set i foundI agree I would be looking at using the existing battery over another battery myself. I still wouldn't worry about the battery as long as the lights aren't accidentally left on for days. Just for future reference have a Kemo M102 module plugged into my cigarette socket to charge my DIY test monitor SLA batteries. I still think for van lighting wiring off the vehicle would be best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwillis Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I am up for the 7ah battery solution, I have a pergot van and all it want to do is stop you using electric to power anything. It goes into Eco mode so you can only have about 30 seconds of light when you open the back doors. What twit thought that was good on a van. I like the cigarette lighter solution so I can't be blamed it the electrics goes tits up. I have the same van and the eco mode does my head in , can't see how eco friendly it is when instead of just using the battery I then start the engine to have some lights and music on! Transits were good for keeping things running , just had to watch it didn't flatten the battery. Happened once in my old combo van. 3rd party radio sometimes didn't turn off as the key barrel was shot and sometimes didn't turn the ignition off even with the key out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDT Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I expect a van of that size to have a type 017 battery, but I don't see that being an issue here anyway. I was referring to current of the LED's regarding using the existing wiring feed, so not to overload the loom. LED's should take less current than the existing festoon type bulb if you are to replace that. I was expecting to use a car type battery and not an SLA for the split charge setup. This is worth pointing out a split charge unit is designed for two automotive batteries and not our SLA's I agree I would be looking at using the existing battery over another battery myself. I still wouldn't worry about the battery as long as the lights aren't accidentally left on for days. Just for future reference have a Kemo M102 module plugged into my cigarette socket to charge my DIY test monitor SLA batteries. I still think for van lighting wiring off the vehicle would be best. I may have miss read I thought someone was trying to use a 7ah SLA battery with a split charge. Speed reading not my thing Also if you try hard enough you can sqeeze a 019 battery on a renault traffic or vauxhall vivaro but i wouldn't bother I fitted an AGM 096 it is a better battery. My wifes focus ST has one on now as well. I am with AGM like people are with galaxy As for the loom, You could use a relay to make sure you don't over load the circuit,loom or the BCM ( french call it UCH but it the same thing) But like you said take the bulb out and make sure the current is the same or less and the will be no fear of an over load. If you do use a relay it may show a fault in the diagnostics in BCM The other option is buy a new ford transit custom with dual battery that self jump starts it self and had led lights already fitted in the back ha ha I have the same van and the eco mode does my head in , can't see how eco friendly it is when instead of just using the battery I then start the engine to have some lights and music on! Transits were good for keeping things running , just had to watch it didn't flatten the battery. Happened once in my old combo van. 3rd party radio sometimes didn't turn off as the key barrel was shot and sometimes didn't turn the ignition off even with the key out. Eco mode is to stop you making the battery flat, It maybe should be called wally mode but its not fool proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Eco mode is to stop you making the battery flat, It maybe should be called wally mode but its not fool proof Yep we know that, it would be nice to be able to listen to the radio for half an hour without starting the engine. And have interia lights that will stay on for more than 30 seconds on a bad day. Some one has lost the plot on how vans are used. Quote Trade Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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