Guest Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Youd need one of those ck elephant cathchers for that the big corridor ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truss and France Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Hello Have not read all this forum so if this detector has already been mentioned then forget it! Try the Takex(Pulnix)PA-450PI pir it is there pet immune detector and it does what it says! might a bit more expensive but you get what you pay for. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb-eye Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 This is an exerpt from your website: 57434[/snapback] OPTEX RX40QZ Are Not Pet Detectors! The extract is straight from Optex. We DONT fit pet detectors. As this undermines security. And we don Customers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 As most pet detectors dont pick up up to 80lb, what would happen if the average drug addict broke in who is 5 stone wet through, when 80lb works out to 5.72 stone. So the average drug user would be able to clean out a house if around 5 stone, watch out for the drug addicts on diets. www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 OPTEX RX40QZ Are Not Pet Detectors! The extract is straight from Optex. We DONT fit pet detectors. As this undermines security. And we don Zak Tankel - Managing Director - Security First (UK) - www.securityfirst.uk.com Disclaimer: Any comments or opinions expressed by me are my own as a member of the public and not of my employer or Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 As most pet detectors dont pick up up to 80lb, what would happen if the average drug addict broke in who is 5 stone wet through, when 80lb works out to 5.72 stone.So the average drug user would be able to clean out a house if around 5 stone, watch out for the drug addicts on diets. 57511[/snapback] Funny. PIR's can't actually weigh you can they? People have different movemements to those of cats, hence algorithms. PI detectors are designed not to FA if you have cats and dogs. But if your 3 cats stood on each other's backs and waved at the detector it would go off - same if the dog thought it was a person and paraded around on its 2 hind legs. How is your 5 stone junky going to get from A to B, pick up and move items, rifle through drawers and cupboards without tripping the detector? More and more people are getting pets. Every detector manufacturer makes pet immune detectors. I would say that most installers use them. Regardless of what anyone says, we are all in business to make money. It's not a question of shirking standards or installing non-complying products. If we install these units and they work, and SSAIB, NSI, ABI and ACPO don't have a problem with them, then I can't see why not use them. But if you have empirical evidence against them, then please share it. Regards Zak Tankel - Managing Director - Security First (UK) - www.securityfirst.uk.com Disclaimer: Any comments or opinions expressed by me are my own as a member of the public and not of my employer or Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 In the past, we have suggested to clients that they lock the pet in the kitchen or some place, and either put just one PI in there, or use some other technology. But, when it is time for the client to go out, he/she has no idea where the pet is, and will either waste time trying to find it, set the alarm only for it to trip later (cos of the pet), or not set the alarm at all. Walking away from clients due to them wanting pet immune detectors is ridiculous. Even if we had the luxury (by that I mean having thousands of clients) I wouldn't. At least not witout real evidence (rather than opinion) that there is a serious problem with pet immune detectors. Zak Tankel - Managing Director - Security First (UK) - www.securityfirst.uk.com Disclaimer: Any comments or opinions expressed by me are my own as a member of the public and not of my employer or Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Funny. PIR's can't actually weigh you can they? 57513[/snapback] On most pet PIRs it says upto 80lbs, so in theroy somebody 80lbs or less could clear you house out, I think a insurance company could decide to claim on you 'wrongful advice' 'failure to operate' insurance. Zak, your logo looks alot like somebody on ebay selling dummy boxes. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...5981621227&rd=1 Just wondering if it is you or has somebidy pinched you logo. www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Or maybe I pinched theirs! Zak Tankel - Managing Director - Security First (UK) - www.securityfirst.uk.com Disclaimer: Any comments or opinions expressed by me are my own as a member of the public and not of my employer or Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Or maybe I pinched theirs! 57516[/snapback] www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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