Lwillis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Stripped out Netgear firmware IIRC lots of features missing. I recommend setting the VSH to "modem mode" and getting your own router. Its heavily skinned. Only come across 2 so far, setup the ports and using the DVR for dyndns. Talk talk are using dlink units. Looks like a tiny homehub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Talk talk are using dlink units. Looks like a tiny homehub.  Yeah, seen one, connected to but didn't have to touch settings. 2 port LAN IIRC? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Stripped out Netgear firmware IIRC lots of features missing. I recommend setting the VSH to "modem mode" and getting your own router. Yep. No fannying around, just plug my trusty Draytek in and alls well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwillis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Yeah, seen one, connected to but didn't have to touch settings. 2 port LAN IIRC? Yeah that's the one its even got WPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9651 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) A type unit?? If so there are issues. B type will work first time. Must be in in dhcp table on router, even though it should be reserved. Edited April 25, 2014 by 9651 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Really, thought the A B thing was HH2s? Where there were 2 totally different guts?  Thats 2 now for DHCP-but-reserved, versus a BB forum true static.  Interesting. Well, lets see what happens when I go back. For the sake of £19, would bang in a TP-Link cable router, except that every internet issue ever would be us on speed dial... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Yep. No fannying around, just plug my trusty Draytek in and alls well. Just got myself a Draytek Vigor. I never liked the old blue ones, but I thought I'd try one after seeing them becoming more popular rack mounted in tidy server rooms. Now I have played with it I love this new one, it's great. Three DDNS services at the same time and a huge selection (**** you DynDNS), USB port as a NAS and/or a 3G/4G WAN, DHCPv6 setup and working over v4. Definitely recommended kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I was a mega Draytek fan but the 2850 has had many issues with vdsl and with many we have out in the wild the BT modem is slaved into the Draytek rather than the Draytek doing it all. Quote www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9651 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Really, thought the A B thing was HH2s? Where there were 2 totally different guts?  Thats 2 now for DHCP-but-reserved, versus a BB forum true static.  Interesting. Well, lets see what happens when I go back. For the sake of £19, would bang in a TP-Link cable router, except that every internet issue ever would be us on speed dial... Yup had it myself, two installs next door to each other (brother and sister) both on fibre, first one flew in port forwarded first time. Second house, must have spent an hour on it. Leave dhcp enabled on the dvr, reserve the ip it in the router I've power cycled them a few times and it's all gravy New hh4 has the same issue. Strange as the b type hh3 sorted it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Just got myself a Draytek Vigor. I never liked the old blue ones, but I thought I'd try one after seeing them becoming more popular rack mounted in tidy server rooms. Now I have played with it I love this new one, it's great. Three DDNS services at the same time and a huge selection (**** you DynDNS), USB port as a NAS and/or a 3G/4G WAN, DHCPv6 setup and working over v4. Definitely recommended kit. Absolutely rock solid kit, and a breeze to setup for all the many options. Not cheap but you get what you pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Yup had it myself, two installs next door to each other (brother and sister) both on fibre, first one flew in port forwarded first time. Second house, must have spent an hour on it. Leave dhcp enabled on the dvr, reserve the ip it in the router I've power cycled them a few times and it's all gravy New hh4 has the same issue. Strange as the b type hh3 sorted it Ok, I will reboot, as settings wise its all as described... Shame about hh4 as that would have been option 2! One thing I didnt reboot was the vdsl modem, but afaiu that wouldnt make a difference... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrolhead Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Don't use the word cctv in the service name you create, that causes problems with the hh3. Are you remembering you need to apply twice, once to add the port, then once to confirm the service? Also a full reboot vdsl and all helps sometimes. i've had 2 that just wouldn't play the game, then suddenly started to work with no real reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutech Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Good old HH3 Type A i'd guess...what a crock of brown stuff  https://community.bt.com/t5/Other-Broadband-Queries/Port-forwarding-and-Loopback-DO-work-YMMV/m-p/525363  Just one of the many threads, I have picked up a few HH3 Type B when out and about where customers have switched BB provider so always useful to carry about as it takes 2 mins to swap and sorts the issue  Draytek are fantastic but as with swapping the original BT gear to any other router if a BB issue comes up BT blame installer  HH5 is 100% , customers can ring BT and request upgrade to HH5, worth looking at equipment on inital survey and recommending its upgraded prior to install Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 BT blame everyone for everything anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share Posted April 27, 2014 Don't use the word cctv in the service name you create, that causes problems with the hh3. Are you remembering you need to apply twice, once to add the port, then once to confirm the service? Also a full reboot vdsl and all helps sometimes. i've had 2 that just wouldn't play the game, then suddenly started to work with no real reason.  Ah, so "CCTV DVR" a no-no then  Really odd you mention that as at one point, 'BT CCTV' or something flashed up on the GUI before disappearing and I thought 'what???' Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwillis Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 not had any issues naming it CCTV or DVR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) Good old HH3 Type A i'd guess...what a crock of brown stuff  https://community.bt.com/t5/Other-Broadband-Queries/Port-forwarding-and-Loopback-DO-work-YMMV/m-p/525363  Just one of the many threads, I have picked up a few HH3 Type B when out and about where customers have switched BB provider so always useful to carry about as it takes 2 mins to swap and sorts the issue  Draytek are fantastic but as with swapping the original BT gear to any other router if a BB issue comes up BT blame installer  HH5 is 100% , customers can ring BT and request upgrade to HH5, worth looking at equipment on inital survey and recommending its upgraded prior to install  Had no idea there was an A and B problem for HH3 (but there clearly is!) just like HH2 - except there didn't BT get forced to do a 100% recall?  HH5 is free if customers moan? Yes, wish I'd checked, except, I did just not knowing about the problems    I spoke too soon!  I have discovered a definate problem with the port forwarding on the BT Home Hub 3B.  In general, what wrote in my original posting is correct - it works. But only if you forward a single port at a time.  Even more interesting! Will make a few changes when I go back.  Thanks for all your replies by the way, its been helpful. So far the customer is chuffed with the camera quality and not too bothered about remote access, as that was never really what they wanted the system for (they have a problem with peoples sat navs taking 4x4s over a closed off road thats been landscaped and footpathed) Edited April 27, 2014 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Another thing I have just thought could cause this issue is an incorrect Gateway IP on the DVR. Worth double checking. I can confirm you can find bugs in router firmware, I found with some brands (D-Link is one IIRC) you can have issues forwarding TCP/UDP in the same rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share Posted April 27, 2014 Another thing I have just thought could cause this issue is an incorrect Gateway IP on the DVR. Worth double checking. I can confirm you can find bugs in router firmware, I found with some brands (D-Link is one IIRC) you can have issues forwarding TCP/UDP in the same rule.  Being lazy I did leave the TCP/UDP as 'all' initially, but soon changed it to TCP only.  I did check on the DVR and the gateway was 192.168.1.1 so that is correct for an unmodified hub,, isn't it? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Most hh are 192.168.1.254 what ip address were u using to program the hub? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share Posted April 27, 2014 Most hh are 192.168.1.254 what ip address were u using to program the hub?  Sorry thinking of my own, that rings a bell, I think it was that now.  I just used bthomehub.home to prog, I am actually certain it did end .254 on the DVR readout. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Most hh are 192.168.1.254 what ip address were u using to program the hub? All the BT Routers i go to (fookin hundreds of them) have that as the default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21ninja Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I have had the issue where calling it cctv or dvr brings up the bt cctv. Took a minute to think of a solutions. Rename. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9651 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 ive not had that, but noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Went back to site this Am Changed the name from Cctv Dvr to just dvr Changed the port forwarding so rather than one list of 3 ports, it was 3 separate services Avoided using the name Cctv in any of the above No reboot, worked immediately... Ffs bt, what a load of junk. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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