datadiffusion Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Had a problem today which hasnt happened before... Res customer on HH3 with BT infinity. All seems to work fine. Installed SW Dvr which was fine locally, dyndns working well from Dvr pov (I.E passwords and login correct). Dyndns site showing correct public ip. Opened up relevent ports on hh. Upnp disabled. Set ip to static. Rebooted all. Just cant seem to show ports open externally.... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Look on the bright side. At least no one will be hacking the DVR Quote www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 so whats your issue? Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Issue is that the Dvr can't be accessed externally... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulland Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Longer fingers required, a well known and documented problem DD....so long as a large letterbox is fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 im on fibre with hh3, no issues, so i doubt its with the hh3. I know thats not of much help, but reckon bt have sorted out the PF issues as the last few ive done have been ok, couple of years ago, they were a mare at times. Longer fingers required, a well known and documented problem DD....so long as a large letterbox is fitted. lol Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 That sounds like a crossword clue... I did read anout Nat loopback issues meaning that you couldnt uee a dyn address internally. Ffs how lame! But the issue remains even when I tried on 3G. Another site suggest a true static Ip outside the BT dhcp range... But not sure if the hub would allow forwarding to an arbitrary ip?? I only read that afterwards. At least the site is only 2 min away and im going back in a week anyway. im on fibre with hh3, no issues, so i doubt its with the hh3. I know thats not of much help, but reckon bt have sorted out the PF issues as the last few ive done have been ok, couple of years ago, they were a mare at times. lol Im on infinity but use a different router, same white infinity box though. Interestingly firmware on the hh is only a week old... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 White box! That'll be the vdsl modem then . . . Quote www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) I was trying to think of the word... Modem is not technically correct I think youll find... Edited April 24, 2014 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Port Scanner, if it fails it's probably still a firewall issue? Try a DMZ, to prove this. Unlikely but ports can be blocked by ISP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Surely if BT were blocking 9000 it would be well known? Tried external port scan, bt hh itself claims firewall automatically exempts port forwards... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I was trying to think of the word... Modem is not technically correct I think youll find... Whys that? Quote www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 What's the IP on the WAN side of the HH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Dont know just something someone told me once which Ive just realised probably isnt true... What's the IP on the WAN side of the HH? Not shared 86.184.25.46 Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 That sounds like a crossword clue... I did read anout Nat loopback issues meaning that you couldnt uee a dyn address internally. Ffs how lame! But the issue remains even when I tried on 3G. Another site suggest a true static Ip outside the BT dhcp range... But not sure if the hub would allow forwarding to an arbitrary ip?? I only read that afterwards. At least the site is only 2 min away and im going back in a week anyway. Im on infinity but use a different router, same white infinity box though. Interestingly firmware on the hh is only a week old... Thought they were black Surely if BT were blocking 9000 it would be well known? Tried external port scan, bt hh itself claims firewall automatically exempts port forwards... Ah, gay port number, mines different so cant verify this works Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Hh is black, vdsl modem is white. As from hh5 the two are combined... (hh5 = hh4 with onboard vdsl) Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I'm out. The only only vd i know itches. Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwillis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The BT hubs can be done. Took me a while the first time. Don't assign a local static IP to the DVR. Use DHCP so the DVR appears in the connected device list. Add it as a saved device and reserve its IP and Mac address. Create the port rules and then assign them to she DVR which is now in the list of connected devices . Test and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 86.184.25.46Well that should rule out a double-NAT issue. Did you test a DMZ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) The BT hubs can be done. Took me a while the first time. Don't assign a local static IP to the DVR. Use DHCP so the DVR appears in the connected device list. Add it as a saved device and reserve its IP and Mac address. Create the port rules and then assign them to she DVR which is now in the list of connected devices . Test and done. That's exactly what I did do though. This is my first with infinity AND HH - my other customers ditched the HH bit when they upgraded. Last two I did on VDSL were netgear and Fritzbox, no issues. Have done ADSL HHs before many a time... Other (BT BB) forum advice is NOT to use an address within DHCP scope, set it as actual static at the device. Oh dear... Just thinking, nothing to do with homeplugs messing about with the presented MAC is it.... Edited April 25, 2014 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwillis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Oh ERM...... Never had one with home plugs. Can you not fool the plugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 ive set em up on hh3 before so id say its setup on the hh. ive done both static and port forwarding on the wan address. i doubt its anything to do with the powerline stuff. for easy testing id chnage the web port to say 82 and test that with a standard browser Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 ive set em up on hh3 before so id say its setup on the hh. Me too, agreed. But have checked, and double checked again and its as per L Willis and other times I've done it before. ive done both static and port forwarding on the wan address. OK i doubt its anything to do with the powerline stuff. Only thinking it as TP link unmanged switches were the culprit with a certain DNLA problem recently, before i read about it I wouldn't have believed it either. for easy testing id chnage the web port to say 82 and test that with a standard browser Yes, I will when I go back, its just so odd... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwillis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 BT hubs were a pain the first few times to be fair. I've noticed the virgin superhubs won't take a dyndns account, hopefully the DVRS should keep it online, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I've noticed the virgin superhubs won't take a dyndns accountStripped out Netgear firmware IIRC lots of features missing. I recommend setting the VSH to "modem mode" and getting your own router. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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