gixerlad Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 I am enjoying playing certainly. I will just sort the pics out in a second if I can . I have looked through the manual but am a bit stuck. Will post for help in a moment if that is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixerlad Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 I will try and put all three pics together. Any diagrams much appreciated ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 dialler +12 to 12v in panel 0v to 0v in panel trig1 to bell output. The tamper connections are to detect the dialler being opened, id wire this in series with your bell tamper return smoke dunno what 1,2,3 & 4 mean, if you look in your book for it id suggest they are +,-,c and nc shock assuming blue and yellow for circuit yellow to left tamper 1 leg of resistor into right tamper other leg of resistor into left alarm another resistor with an end of each in the alarm connector blue in the right alarm connecter securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixerlad Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 James!!! Ill have a look in the same smoke detector I wired to the scantronic and then apply the same principle to the resistors as you mention for the shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/30554-cooper-m12-smoke-detector-connection-to-9751-panel/ So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 James!!! Ill have a look in the same smoke detector I wired to the scantronic and then apply the same principle to the resistors as you mention for the shock. 1-+ 2-0v 3&4 zone connections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixerlad Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 Thanks guys for all your help!! Seems to be all A OK so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixerlad Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 A couple of issues have arisen and hopefully this will finalise things. It will not let me exit engineer mode.According to the manual this is because there are issues to resolve.(Enter code the esc) It lists two faults. 1.) One is just the word Bell with no + or - by it. On the bell terminal in the control panel I have the negative terminal from a sound bomb and the positive terminal from the sound bomb goes to one of the aux + points. It does show this as acceptable in a drawing in the manual and says a "bell" can be connected in this way without a resistor being included. The sounder works perfectly. Goes off in an alarm situation and does not go off at any other time. Would anyone have any thoughts why it is insisting there is a bell issue. There are no other wires any any of the other bell output connections. 2.) The smoke detector is wired as per the instructions and as per the kind link provided above, When the smoke detector is not connected to the base then all is fine but when it is it also shows up in the fault area with the bell as a tamper problem. Remove the detector from the base and the fault goes. So a bit stuck. Any help much appreciated. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixerlad Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Perhaps should have said, do not want to use the ADT bell box as an internal sounder and a dialler will do. So guess the system is spotting there is no ADT box and letting me know, perhaps the better question is what is needed to fool it into thinking there is no tamper issue with a box that is not there. To update the smoke detector. No resistors at all and it shows as a tamper issue. Fit resistor across 3 and 4 and then tamper only shows if detector is connected to the base. I have the zone programmed as intruder as there is no fire option which I thought was odd as there is one in the guide, but it does not come up in the menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Perhaps should have said, do not want to use the ADT bell box as an internal sounder and a dialler will do. So guess the system is spotting there is no ADT box and letting me know, perhaps the better question is what is needed to fool it into thinking there is no tamper issue with a box that is not there. To update the smoke detector. No resistors at all and it shows as a tamper issue. Fit resistor across 3 and 4 and then tamper only shows if detector is connected to the base. I have the zone programmed as intruder as there is no fire option which I thought was odd as there is one in the guide, but it does not come up in the menu. Here is how you need to wire the base... you will need a terminal block (single) and sleeving to do it right with the M12 Wire 1------------------------------[RESISTOR]-----------------------------[TERMINAL 3] * * [Fit another resistor ACROSS terminals 3 and 4] * * Wire 2---------------------------------------------------------------------------[TERMINAL 4] As for fire in the menu, I only ever take this model out but perchance it is only available on a certain zone, i.e. 8?? So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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