PSE Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Sounds about right, Half the back bedroom crew out there don't have a clue, its all about a quick quid Always Work out your cable runs based on maximum demand against cable size, volts drop resistance etc Some still find this a mystery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMurphy Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 suck it and see is what most rogues seem to do. No planning or previous experience of issues 30 years of experience, ssaib approved family business. We have a very long list of clients that we are very proud chose to use us. We have never bought out any other company or forced anyone to use us. All of our customers are free to leave us whenever they wish, yet very few ever have. This is down to the fact that we always put our best into every job. http://alarmguard.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 suck it and see is what most rogues seem to do. No planning or previous experience of issues Sad isn't it www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reidy Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Cat5 is fantastic when installed properly Hey Ho, Lets Go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMurphy Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Sad isn't it for the client that pays twice for 1 job (once by the rogue, and again by a pro) 30 years of experience, ssaib approved family business. We have a very long list of clients that we are very proud chose to use us. We have never bought out any other company or forced anyone to use us. All of our customers are free to leave us whenever they wish, yet very few ever have. This is down to the fact that we always put our best into every job. http://alarmguard.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Very true, again though I often feel like the crook when you spend 30 mins reeling off why the previous job was done so badly. It just looks like sour grapes and that you're slagging off legitimate competition sometimes. Had this the other day, although the house alarm being replaced was over 15 years old anyway, but had been installed in such a bad way by a so-called pro we couldn't reuse one inch of the wiring even. (And in the garage, you just pulled the plug in transformerand it all went dead. It took me a few minutes to explain why this was a bad thing...) What would be considered a quality make of baluns btw? So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsturner Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 We have used genie cctv and not had any issues. I agree with above it seems like your trying to put their system down so you can score a job, i hate doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSE Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 We have used over 800 of the Adata cheapie ones for most installs, had less than a handful go duff They work just fine for £2.00 a pair. Anything other, it's NVT all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 We have used genie cctv and not had any issues. I agree with above it seems like your trying to put their system down so you can score a job, i hate doing that. the only thing genie we will use is the baluns and rack mounted PSU's.. no problems to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Agree totally with one pair per camera, but also make sure you have the correct white of the colour used, crossing them over will seriously degrade images., and just too easy in poor lighting on some canle to swap orange/white for brown/white. Where possible power locally on long runs, if not possible then i use a boxed psu and move the pcb to other end of cable, feeding AC From the transformer over the power wires. One 'trick' to try on long power runs is to fit a large capacitir at the camera to smooth voltage. If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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