oasistechnical Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 well there, we dont have enough comms based ssytems, as most other firms only want the comms systems! audible dont seem to cut it anymore, but an install is an install! anyway we dont use ATS! we only fit galaxy!!!! and yep we are SSIAB and proud of it, as we keep our docs up together. Oasis and a personal thingy, i hate ATS, far to complicated for an intruder alarm, GE should have left it as an access control system, as per what it was originally designed for, TKMaxx has ATS all over, and from being called out to the Croydon site, many years ago took one look at it and thought, what the hell do i do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 It is true that on looking for companies to buy, it is only comms systems that we and any others are interested in as that is where the money is. We used to be ssaib and proud but on looking at other ssaib firms to takeover and seeing the things they have been allowed to blatantly get away with doesn't make me so proud to where the badge as I once did. I agree ATS is a very complex but also very clever platform. It's complexity and lack of support from UTC unless you are one of their key customers is actually its big attraction to me knowing that Tom, Dick & Harry can't support it and that UTC will not engage with an installer unless they are spending decent amounts with them. Same with Lenel access. Very picky who they will do business with. www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsturner Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 knowing that Tom, Dick & Harry can't support it . True. tom dick and harry just pull it out and replace with something better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 True. tom dick and harry just pull it out and replace with something better easier that they understand as they are just a 12v monkey rather than an engineer I couldn't agree more. www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsturner Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 You pull them out too then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 You pull them out too then? We only have engineers left on the team. The fitters have ended up getting sacked and sadly I have the employment tribunals as a memento of their time here. www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsturner Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Lol "engineer" is a term used too loosely these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Even the bloke that sold me a payg sim card in the corner shop is a 'communications sales engineer'! So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsturner Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I rest my case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxo Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I agree, although called one myself I have no degree. Then again after seeing some with degree`s was the time really spent getting one worthwhile? It seems now they are not being really needed for jobs in certain sectors anyway. On a plus note my son (Eldest) has just been "spotted" by a model agency and is now going to Paris and New York in the next few weeks apparently. !8, 6 ft 3 blonde and blue eyes God help him.............. But at least he can earn quick and then use it for something else. Always told the boys not to do this lark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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