Oxo Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Did a job with a m8 and the gas board sent some Polish bloke to do a gas meter swap. Told the client the meter was live and he would not touch it, so we got called. Checked it all out and nothing wrong, told client to call them back. Same muppet came and said the same. We came back out and totally proved that this was not live, then asked if the bloke had one of these and picked up a Volt Stick. He said yes. So we shuffled up the carpet and touched the client with it, and told him he was live. Then called the Gas Board and asked them what the meter man was trained in? We got little responce as you can imgaine, we all know they do a 4 hour course and get a nice certificate!!! We told them the meter was NOT live and correctly bonded, for them to do the job or send someone who was qualified. We got a call a few days later, another had turned up and there was no issue. AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG for the waste of time. We did not charge the customer either. Not his fault and we did sort of go past. And he always gave more work or passed on our names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 and voltsticks should be banned. In OP's case by far the safest way to tell whether, Mr F Witt the sparks has left the cable live ? Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwillis Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I've been to jobs where the cable ment for the spur is live aswell. Quite often infact. You'd think a qualified engineer would no not to leave a live cable hanging out of a wall ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I've been to jobs where the cable ment for the spur is live aswell. Quite often infact. You'd think a qualified engineer would no not to leave a live cable hanging out of a wall ... You'd think anyone with a brain would no not to leave a live cable hanging out of a wall ... www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 You'd think a qualified engineer would no not to leave a live cable hanging out of a wall ... The one which really pisses on my chips is 240v piped though the fire controls 50v on pcb fire relay. Been zapped enough times to check whats running though relay as bozo the sparkes don't have get around Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antinode Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Yep, been bitten myself trying to remove the sounder fuses on a Firedex 9000, adjacent to which were the fuses for the aux relay commons, live at 240 for the door retainers! Trade Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsturner Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I use handy relay to switch mains with handy relay powered by aux and fire panel relay ( only if its already installed ) on new allow for loop mains switching relay. Hate seeing panels with mains flying around, usually mdr's. Always fit back emf protection on handy relays too to protect panel relay. How many fire panels do you guys come accross with fuked relays on board? Ive seen quite a few, and the sndr cct becomes the relay trigger Yep, been bitten myself trying to remove the sounder fuses on a Firedex 9000, adjacent to which were the fuses for the aux relay commons, live at 240 for the door retainers!Seen exactly the same on same panel too!Local care home installed by sparks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlarmScot Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Nothing wrong with the use of non-contact voltage indicators IMO, they have their place but that place is not for proving or disproving wether or not a circuit is energised before working on it. Neon screwdrivers should be consigned to the nearest bin following the hammer treatment. Anybody who puts themselves in contact with a potentialy live circuit via a piddly resistor and neon is asking for a belt. Include that with the muppets who use a hammer to remove everything. I have saw many panels with screwed relays on them. I am also Multi Trained for Fire & Security systems. - I think a lot of Engineers are now multi trained. I also noticed Everest are trying to enter the Home Security Market. Sounds like a other British Gas try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxo Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 They have been for a while now. Also seen a FCU with just the neutral split. Line and Earth running straight through!!!!!!!!!!! Pulled fuse and removed mains cable and zap. Thanks a fuggin lot dopey git before me. Was removing the panel to relocate when business had moved. A nice reminder to "check and test" TWICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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