sixwheeledbeast Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 but for coax? a no-no imo. I think it would depend on the quality of the cable, and insulating material. Never seen any problems on site with un-insulated ones. There 14mm long so hardly push on the cable at all. I would if I used one. Someone makes a staple with a "small plastic bridge" for want of a better description, so it only goes as deep as the leg. Hence it wont crush the cable. Think Ive even seen it advertised for Sparkies? Insulated Staples. Used one for Mains/Shotgun Cable very handy, staples can work out expensive tho. There's a new type called UTAC which is a solid plastic staple, no metal at all. UTAC staples are ideal for fixing to wood, fibre-board, all types of wood boards, plasterboard and even solid insulation blocks such as thermalite arrow, still think no more than 50 volts ? Only insulated/non metal staples if voltage higher than ELV. I would be lost without my staplers, used correctly they make cabling look tidy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) ? Edited November 17, 2011 by norman Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 ? yeah, Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 lol, it wasn't shopped, it's how it showed up on the screen here, even after refreshing, seems to have cleared now though. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 it's how it showed up on the screen here, JW & half measures ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miaren Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 arrow, still think no more than 50 volts ? Found it.. The Arrow 72. One image ive seen shows it being used with 2.5 T&E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw46 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 i'd be a bit carefull with 8 core, it is easy to stick a leg through it and cause issues, 6 core tends to be fine. Stapling around skirting, architrave and coving i find tends to be a lot neater and lest intrusive than trunking. Just run a bit of decorators chalk across the cable to blend it into ceiling/walls. Magnolia chalk is heaven sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Nothing wrong with staple guns in the right hands, I've got a coax staple gun as well, very handy. ditto +1 cable clips get brittle, offer a possible hazard to children chocking on dislodged bits of them, seen the pin not in the holder but forced through the arch. imho any tool in the wrong hands is simply two tools put together by accident - take a neon screwdriver as example lol! or perhaps not Quote If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistle Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 i'd be a bit carefull with 8 core, it is easy to stick a leg through it and cause issues, 6 core tends to be fine. Stapling around skirting, architrave and coving i find tends to be a lot neater and lest intrusive than trunking. Just run a bit of decorators chalk across the cable to blend it into ceiling/walls. Magnolia chalk is heaven sent But surly under 2m it should be mechanically protected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 But surly under 2m it should be mechanically protected? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Why? To keep mechanics in work Quote www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Found it.. The Arrow 72. One image ive seen shows it being used with 2.5 T&E ARROW T72.jpg  There was a special Rapesco gun for 1.0-1.5 T+E mind. Used plastic staples. Gave NICEIC inspectors palpitations when seen!! To keep mechanics in work  Lets have some more of those jokes, folks... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 To keep mechanics in work LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Staple guns for 6 core etc = great but for coax? a no-no imo. if you compress the coax you affect its transmission properties higher up the spectrum, making balancing of systems hard to impossible in some cases.ok, if its only 10 meters of cable, but above that, not worth the risk. Im speaking from knowledge of large aerial systems, but the principal holds true in cctv cabling too. breff stated 'coax staple gun', so a tool designed for the job, its boils down to experience, its not like using a club hammer instead of a pinning hammer for 6mm hiats . for a very short period i worked for a company that used staple guns to lace wire sheet panels under hardboard. no way did i want to risk attending to see large hole on door and rusted wire staples with no a tivation . Quote If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsssecurityandfire Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 ADT allowed the use of staples at some APC,s Manchester & Liverpool being 2 of them , Personally if used correctly and with care i approve my lads to use for fixing into soft building materials i.e Timber ect ect  , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSE Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 They are fine until the staple hits a knot in the timber and flirts the staple into the cable, Even worse when you don't see the damage until you start chasing your tail when commissioning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amps Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) The 4.5mm clips will have been supplied with of late make staples a very attractive choice! What clips for 8 core are peeps using these days? Edited April 27, 2014 by steveo44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulland Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 2.5mm T+E, no fecking chance of damaging the 8core, seriously though surely we use staplers/clips, we all run the risk of damaging a cable!-put one 8 core in 16x25 trunking just to be on the safe side?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Ive used staple guns since I was 14 never had an issue apart from when I've stapled blind and hit the cable. Never had a knot fire an end back into the cable when correctly seated. Not saying it can't happen just never happened to me Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulland Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 As James, had mis-fired staples, pulled them out, metered the cable, very, very rare to actually cut a core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Misfired sounds a lot better than not being able to seen the breech and firing anyway. Ta Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsssecurityandfire Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I think it all depends on the engineer and his understanding of the problems you can get not just at commissioning time but later on in the movie , I have always used a staple gun in the correct areas and experience tough me to be careful, Although i do like to trunk were i can or aluminium tubing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I like aluminium tubing. Useful for persuading people to your way of thinking Quote www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSE Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 A 500mm piece of 25mm galv tube kept in the front of the van, Now that's a good persuader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Man after my own thinking. *disclaimer* TSI does not condone the use of heavy conduit for use as an offence weapon in inappropriate conditions. A vote on TSI determined use on union representatives, salesmen and NACOSS inspectors did not class as inappropriate conditions. Quote www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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