Truss and France Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Just after some advice, got a large intruder system to install in a school seven of the external doors are going to 24 hour but the caretaker wants a switch on the inside to shunt out the contact so he can put the rubbish out then come back in. My question is, can this just be a switch in a tamperproof box or has it got to be a shunt unit, if so any suggestions of which ones to use. Thanks Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBaker Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Just after some advice, got a large intruder system to install in a school seven of the external doors are going to 24 hour but the caretaker wants a switch on the inside to shunt out the contact so he can put the rubbish out then come back in. My question is, can this just be a switch in a tamperproof box or has it got to be a shunt unit, if so any suggestions of which ones to use.Thanks Kev What panel you thinking about fitting? Most panels you can wire a keyswitch or prox reader or keypad to enable the area to be isolate. Cant the rubbish be taken out before the system is set ? so reducing the risk of false alarms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest old-hand Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 To be clear he is going to be inside the building when the system is set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirectFS Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 What panel you thinking about fitting? Most panels you can wire a keyswitch or prox reader or keypad to enable the area to be isolate. Cant the rubbish be taken out before the system is set ? so reducing the risk of false alarms. The OP stated that the doors were to be 24 hour. No suggestion, then, of setting or unsetting the system. Yes, OP - you can use a "normal" shunt switch such as Gardiner's sell. Bill. Bill Accord Fire & Security Services Ltd. www.accordfire.co.uk ~ TEL: 0845 474 5839 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black knight Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 As i read your original post this is to be a 24 hr door so alarm being on or off does,nt matter. I would reccommend you fit a proper shunt unit (one that has a beep on it when shunt is off and staff will know door is open, you could also link this beep , using relays , to a log only zone) that way it is less likely you will have false alarms caused by door being open when shunt key turned back to alarmed position. Obviously some panels do the 'shunt' procedure automatically but if not a proper shunt unit will suffice paul (and Bill, above, types faster then me!! ) THE BLACK KNIGHT "Any comments / opinions posted are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest old-hand Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 The OP stated that the doors were to be 24 hour. No suggestion, then, of setting or unsetting the system.Bill. OP states LARGE system, I just read into it a bit more. Does help at times to get all the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truss and France Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 Sorry, I should have stated its going to be a Galaxy panel. I have used shunt units before but thought I might be able to get away with a boxed key switch. The doors will be armed 24/7, obviously giving a local alarm during when the building is occuopied and a full alarm when empty. So it looks like I will go with the shunt units. Thanks for your help. Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y-i-out-of-bed Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 castle have shunt zones exacly for this but you could get a dubble poll switch and use one side to short over contact and other to be intruder zone so if left shunted it wont allow system to set and also if some could acsess it then shunting would cause alarm when set, also you could fit an extra keypad near door and can just silence 24hour alarm when unset and would couse full alarm on set. zone type would be security on galaxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McP Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 If you are using a Galaxy then you can fit a keyswitch to a zone and use links so it will omit the 24hr zone. But Iwould advise you put in some local indication such as a buzzer or LED. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 you could also program the doors as a seperate group, and assign a code for that group so that all he has to do is punch in his code, open as many doors as he likes, then re-arm the group....saves on fitting so many shunts, and cost to the customer Every day is a school day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 As the supervisor is using the shunt from inside the bufong to shunt before he exits, do you need to concider having a mini mag to prevent false alarms grom not shunting on a monitored system? Bit like final exit in reverse. I'd suggest an ACT or Paxton V/R prox kit or similar, stand alone, perhaps in a lockable box like I have seen ADT use for their alarm keypads, that way you can restrict doors down to individuals and keep the herberts from mucking about with it. Arfur If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonaccesscontrol Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I'd suggest an ACT or Paxton V/R prox kit or similar, stand alone, perhaps in a lockable box like I have seen ADT use for their alarm keypads, that way you can restrict doors down to individuals and keep the herberts from mucking about with it. I agree with you on this point to use lockable box. It is a smart option to use as a shunt unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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