arfur mo Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 hi guys, i've been using Kaspersky Internet security V6 for the past year, bought it as was on offer with 3 licenses, had anti-spam filtering big hate isue for me, now coming up for renewal. i can get off amazon for If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 i use avg free edition and touch wood had no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I have had to repair so many machines that thought avg was protecting them i no longer recommened it. We use Sophos on the network and fint it very good, But thats a server client version, what the desktop ones are like i have no idea. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpotter Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 We got some BT security pack with the brordband package. Havn't had any problems. Is it true 95% viruses get you via email attatchments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 We use Sophos in the server/client set-up and found it excellent. Technical Manager NSI/LPC Approved Alarm Receiving Centre South Manchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjonley Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I've been using avg free edition with free updates AVG on Download.com for about the last 5 years. Why paid for anti-virus when a good one is available free Kind regards Stuart Onley SAMS Consultancy Independent Security Consultants email:enquiries@samsconsultancy.co.uk website:www.samsconsultancy.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 i ran the single user trial version of SOPHOS, i know its one of the classier brands as the wifes firm are agents and sell it so i know it's abit pricey. seemed to me very resource hungry, update slows my machiine down to a crawl, and this on a dual core regs alan We got some BT security pack with the brordband package. Havn't had any problems.Is it true 95% viruses get you via email attatchments? thats the figures, and usually from some one you know than a stranger . you tend to trust them more but dump junk mails. dodgy warez and porno sites are flooded with it, trojans, worms, maleware - so i'm told regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RJBsec Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 My advice is stay with Kaspersky but if you have to move on the basis of not understanding a warning move to NOD32. Free (and most paid products) just don't have the update frequency required for today's Internet environment, let alone the quality of the product itself.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 How often should these things be updated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RJBsec Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Mine checks for updates hourly, daily should be an absolute minimum - most programmes update weekly or even less frequently. Virus activity (new) in the last 24 hours Name of malicious program ↑ Detection time Update released 20 June 2008 Trojan.Win32.Obfuscated.c 13:08 Rootkit.Win32.Agent 11:29 Trojan.Win32.Pakes.a 11:24 15:36 Trojan.Win32.Monder.c 10:48 15:36 Trojan.Win32.Monder.b 10:45 14:46 Trojan.Win32.Monder.a 10:44 14:46 Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Small 09:43 13:46 Trojan-Clicker.Win32.Spacer.x 09:38 13:46 Trojan-Spy.Win32.Delf 09:29 13:46 Trojan.Win32.Vapsup.d 08:18 12:11 Trojan.Win32.Vapsup.c 08:18 12:11 Trojan.Win32.Vapsup.b 08:18 12:11 Trojan.Win32.Vapsup.a 08:18 12:11 Worm.Win32.AutoRun.vaab 06:44 10:36 Backdoor.Win32.Hupigon.vaaa 06:43 10:36 Email-Worm.Win32.Zhelatin.vaaj 06:36 10:36 Trojan.Win32.Agent.vaac 06:34 10:36 Trojan-PSW.Win32.OnLineGames.vaae 06:29 10:36 Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Zlob.vaak 05:14 09:36 Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Zlob.vaaj 05:13 09:36 Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Zlob.vaai 05:12 09:36 Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Zlob.vaah 05:11 09:36 Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Zlob.vaag 05:10 09:36 Email-Worm.Win32.Small.vaaa 03:59 07:47 Trojan-PSW.Win32.Magania.vaad 03:48 07:47 Trojan-PSW.Win32.Magania.vaac 03:48 07:47 Trojan-PSW.Win32.Magania.vaab 03:46 07:47 Trojan-PSW.Win32.Magania.vaaa 03:46 07:47 Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Zlob.vaaf 03:38 07:47 Email-Worm.Win32.Zhelatin.vaai 03:34 07:47 Email-Worm.Win32.Zhelatin.vaah 03:33 07:47 Email-Worm.Win32.Zhelatin.vaag 03:32 07:47 Email-Worm.Win32.Zhelatin.vaaf 03:30 07:47 Email-Worm.Win32.Zhelatin.vaae 03:30 07:47 Trojan-PSW.Win32.OnLineGames.vaad 03:21 07:47 Email-Worm.Win32.Zhelatin.vaad 03:08 06:56 Trojan-Spy.Win32.Banker.vaad 03:05 06:56 Email-Worm.Win32.Zhelatin.vaac 03:02 06:56 Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Banload.vaae 02:55 06:56 Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Winlagons.vaab 02:54 06:56 Trojan-Spy.Win32.Zbot.vaac 02:52 06:56 Trojan.Win32.Inject.vaaa 02:50 06:56 Trojan-Spy.Win32.Zbot.vaab 02:46 06:56 Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Winlagons.vaaa 02:45 06:56 Trojan-Spy.Win32.Zbot.vaaa 02:43 06:56 Worm.Win32.Socks.vaaa 02:41 06:56 Trojan-Downloader.JS.vaaa 02:34 06:56 Email-Worm.Win32.Zhelatin.vaab 02:33 06:56 Trojan-Spy.Win32.Banker.vaac 02:31 06:56 Trojan-Spy.Win32.Banker.vaab 02:30 06:56 Trojan-Downloader.HTML.IFrame.vaaa 02:25 06:56 Email-Worm.Win32.Zhelatin.vaaa 02:21 06:56 Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Banload.vaad 02:20 06:56 Trojan.Win32.Obfuscated.vaab 02:09 06:05 Trojan-Spy.Win32.BZub.vaaa 02:02 06:05 Trojan-Spy.Win32.Goldun.vaaa 01:48 06:05 not-a-virus:AdWare.Win32.Virtumonde.vaab 01:41 06:05 Trojan.Win32.Monder.vaaa 01:39 06:05 Trojan-Downloader.Win32.FraudLoad.vaaa 01:37 06:05 Backdoor.Win32.VB.vaaa 01:35 06:05 Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Agent.vaab 01:10 05:16 Backdoor.Win32.Agent.vaab 01:08 05:16 Worm.Win32.AutoRun.vaaa 01:06 05:16 Backdoor.Win32.Agent.vaaa 01:01 05:16 Trojan.Win32.Vapsup.vaad 00:35 05:16 Trojan.Win32.Vapsup.vaac 00:34 05:16 Trojan.Win32.Vapsup.vaab 00:32 04:20 Trojan.Win32.Agent.vaab 00:31 04:20 Trojan.Win32.Vapsup.vaaa 00:30 04:20 Trojan.Win32.Agent.vaaa 00:14 04:20 Trojan.Win32.Pakes.vaaa 00:12 04:20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 avg free addition updates daily automatically. is more often really required? maybe i should upgrade to the paid version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 we update our servr over 10 mins. It has caught some brand new ones. As long as you wait till your updated before using your machine and all the data it uses is older than the update than no you dont need to update more often. After you get a virus on your avg machine... then you will see that yes you did need to update more often. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpotter Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 thats the figures, and usually from some one you know than a stranger . you tend to trust them more but dump junk mails.dodgy warez and porno sites are flooded with it, trojans, worms, maleware - so i'm told regs alan Mates, who'd have em. You would think though porno sites would be clean ..... I could of worded it better. I mean, if we all thought porno sites were dirty.... I mean if we could catch something off a porn site... Put it this way, I wouldn't go to a porn site if I thought my computer would be at risk, unless I was desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Mates, who'd have em.You would think though porno sites would be clean ..... I could of worded it better. I mean, if we all thought porno sites were dirty.... I mean if we could catch something off a porn site... Put it this way, I wouldn't go to a porn site if I thought my computer would be at risk, unless I was desperate. Ah now I see why james & Rodger use the most up to date protection available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpotter Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Ah now I see why james & Rodger use the most up to date protection available Err, you talking about mates again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CompostCORNER Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 AVG Free for me. At the end of the day, if you are vigilant enough with your browsing and your attachment opening, you could almost get away with nothing. A decent hardware firewall, like built into most ADSL router/modem units, and the odd scan from Spybot, AVG v8 and Lavasofts Adaware, and a bit of common sense, and you should be OK. I used to have Norton but it's bloated to the point that it would slow down my system at times so I binned it. Another tip I've been told about, not sure if it works but makes sense, is to run your scans with your PC in Safe Mode. I've seen Norton find stuff but then not being able to remove it due to the program with the problem in, up and already running. Safe Mode starts only the essentail basic programs so it's supposedly better for Norton to remove nasty stuff. I guess the same applies with any program you use to remove undesirable stuff from your PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RJBsec Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 AVG Free for me. At the end of the day, if you are vigilant enough with your browsing and your attachment opening, you could almost get away with nothing. A decent hardware firewall, like built into most ADSL router/modem units, and the odd scan from Spybot, AVG v8 and Lavasofts Adaware, and a bit of common sense, and you should be OK. I used to have Norton but it's bloated to the point that it would slow down my system at times so I binned it. Another tip I've been told about, not sure if it works but makes sense, is to run your scans with your PC in Safe Mode. I've seen Norton find stuff but then not being able to remove it due to the program with the problem in, up and already running. Safe Mode starts only the essentail basic programs so it's supposedly better for Norton to remove nasty stuff. I guess the same applies with any program you use to remove undesirable stuff from your PC. Sorry, but really bad advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Sorry, but really bad advice. Everyone is perfectly entitled to give their view. Just because it's not the same as yours may be does not make it bad. I too use AVG free with daily update, adaware SE and spybot and have had no problems on the laprtop I'm using since bought in 2006 not my main PC since it was bought in 2005. Now it may be down to luck or the fact i don't visit dodge sites I don't know but it works for me so I'd happily advise it to others. C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I've been using avg free edition with free updates AVG on Download.comfor about the last 5 years. Why paid for anti-virus when a good one is available free On the work machine Stu?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RJBsec Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Everyone is perfectly entitled to give their view. Just because it's not the same as yours may be does not make it bad. I too use AVG free with daily update , adawares se and spybot and have had no problems on the laprtop I'm using since bought in 2006 not my main PC since it was bought in 2005. Now it may be down to luck or the fact i don't visit dodge sites I don't know but it works for me so I'd happily advise it to others. C. I'm not against everyone having their own point of view but that doesn't make their advice good. To suggest that it is okay not to use any A/V is bad advice, in fact I would say that it is worse than bad advice it is irresponsible because it carries with it the risk of passing viruses etc onto others you communicate with. Many people are totally unaware of the viruses infecting their computers or of the risk of other computers using their's to infect other computers, keylog and worse. You may not agree but it's still bad advice and I stand by that, without wishing anyone to take personal offence, its not 'personal'. its important to the whole Internet experience for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 See my POV differs regards advice. What your saying is it's good or bad in your opinion. I think the responsiblity lies with those who take said advice to satisfy themselves it's correct. C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RJBsec Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 What your saying is it's good or bad in your opinion. No, it's not my opinion, it's fact - advising people not to use an anti-virus is bad advice. But again it's not personal, use an a/v or don't use an a/v but if a virus wipes your bios and renders your pc useless or hijacks your pc and uses it for its own purposes or starts logging all of your keystrokes you'll eventually regret not making efforts to stop it - problem is it may not only be you that it affects. (Generic 'you', not personal 'you'). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 See my POV differs regards advice.I think the responsiblity lies with those who take said advice to satisfy themselves it's correct. C. As above. Good, bad, right or wrong is no matter, it's how we discuss each others that does. I was merely trying (badly) to point out noboby needs flamed for giving theirs. e.g. That's possibly not the best advice to properly protect your PC or suitable for commercial use where any lost data may be more critical. v Thats really bad advice. Ya get me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RJBsec Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 As above.Good, bad, right or wrong is no matter, it's how we discuss each others that does. I was merely trying (badly) to point out noboby needs flamed for giving theirs. e.g. That's possibly not the best advice to properly protect your PC or suitable for commercial use where any lost data may be more critical. v Thats really bad advice. Ya get me? "Flamed"? I could find dozens of threads where members have been "flamed" but I don't see that in any of my comments in this thread - I think we're in danger of getting a bit too PC here if you'll excuse the pun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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