spider Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Finally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 To be honest tho its a mute point - unless you really have to All 'points' be they PA's or contacts should be on individual zones IMHOp leaving aside PA`s ( cause they take priority in the signalling equipment) the Gardtec stuff see`s two circuits and an EOL as a Mask or Fault so back to my original CONTENTIOUS question - you doing this for yourself or gain O/P (cause if its the latter you need to get the coil of cable back out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black knight Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Finally thanks for that now if you just said you put the alarm resistor across all 3 PA's i would have known what you mean (those of us familar with Europlex (aplex etc) will know that you have to use this method on a zone with more than one contact (ie a double set of doors) or it won,t work (i tried it the 'normal' way (alarm resistor across each contact) and when you open more than one door at a time it goes t*** up!!! p THE BLACK KNIGHT "Any comments / opinions posted are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 thanks for thatnow if you just said you put the alarm resistor across all 3 PA's i would have known what you mean (those of us familar with Europlex (aplex etc) will know that you have to use this method on a zone with more than one contact (ie a double set of doors) or it won,t work (i tried it the 'normal' way (alarm resistor across each contact) and when you open more than one door at a time it goes t*** up!!! p hmm, but the problem is it leaves the first two devices without any short curcuit protection - nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black knight Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 hmm, but the problem is it leaves the first two devices without any short curcuit protection - nightmare that europlex for yeh...................... p THE BLACK KNIGHT "Any comments / opinions posted are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Finally thanks spider, it is a known wiring method to me, but i have never heard of that expression to describe it before, and i was just a tad worried i'd been left behind by you younger 'turks' regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 thanks for thatnow if you just said you put the alarm resistor across all 3 PA's i would have known what you mean (those of us familar with Europlex (aplex etc) will know that you have to use this method on a zone with more than one contact (ie a double set of doors) or it won,t work (i tried it the 'normal' way (alarm resistor across each contact) and when you open more than one door at a time it goes t*** up!!! p on tunstal CPA6 you were allowed 5 contacts using a bridge resistor per contact, panel showed "contact+" to indicate more than one door open. Gardtec also allows but not sure what the limit is but think also 5. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Gardtec also allows but not sure what the limit is but think also 5.regs alan not now it doesnt, once you select EN2 the stupid panel see`s mask / fault even if you don`t select a ELF type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 on tunstal CPA6 you were allowed 5 contacts using a bridge resistor per contact, panel showed "contact+" to indicate more than one door open. Gardtec also allows but not sure what the limit is but think also 5.regs alan now the question is would that be in parallel or series lol( i think arfur will get the joke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 was not having a dig in any way, just misunderstood the reply myself, so what chance a diyer.....i would also agree that each pa ideally should be on its own circuit, but . the gentleman only has one zone left...... HI EVERYONE,LOOKS LIKE I GOT YOU ALL THINKING!I AM WIRING A LOAD OF TOWNHOUSE'S AND I TRIED ALL THE WAYS I KNOW AND EVEN ASKED COLLEAGUES WHO SCRATCHED THERE HEAD A BIT. I HAVE LITERALLY ONE ZONE LEFT TO PUT 3 PA'S ON AND WANTED TO AVOID PUTTING RES IN THE PANEL DUE TO THE SITE MAY BE VISITED BY NACOSS AND I DONT THINK THEY WOULD LIKE THAT! THANKS FOR YOUR TIPS AND DRAWINGS. SVEN (MCFC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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