amateurandy Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Well I have never installed OEM Vista, but I have installed loads and loads of XP OEM's. They don't require any customisation, you just enter user info etc on boot. Depending where they came from, they may have already been customised by the System Builder, typically to recognise that it's being installed on the right hardware. Dell and HP/Compaq have definitely done that at times, and several other makes I've encountered. If you install on the right hardware you often don't need either a key or activation. Quite what state the "generic" OEM Vista is in I wouldn't know; hopefully you can install from it, but worst case would be needing to run some specialised System Builder tools to "brand" or "customise" it to create "Your" installable Vista DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Depending where they came from, they may have already been customised by the System Builder, typically to recognise that it's being installed on the right hardware. Dell and HP/Compaq have definitely done that at times, and several other makes I've encountered.If you install on the right hardware you often don't need either a key or activation. Quite what state the "generic" OEM Vista is in I wouldn't know; hopefully you can install from it, but worst case would be needing to run some specialised System Builder tools to "brand" or "customise" it to create "Your" installable Vista DVD. I know if you buy a Dell PC etc then these large manufacturers brand their OS's. I have bought OEM's from Ebuyer and Planet Micro and never had this issue. When Phelps Systems first started we use to be big in computers, supply, upgrade, repair etc.. as I was still working for a security company . Since I left and started doing security work for my own company they have taken a back seat. We still build our own machines for access control and CCTV applications. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateurandy Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 When Phelps Systems first started we use to be big in computers, supply, upgrade, repair etc.. ..... We still build our own machines for access control and CCTV applications. You definitely get the "bin there, done that" gold star on PC's then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 You definitely get the "bin there, done that" gold star on PC's then! I wouldn't say that, but we have had our fair share of dealing with PC DIY'ers that reckon they know it all. The problems we experienced is you supply a brand new state of the art PC, all signing and dancing. The user then fills it full of freeware and shareware and it starts running as slow as a ZX81. We got the phone call "your PC is faulty" I am not an IT proffesional but started working on ZX81's at school (oops thats shown my age), then I bought one from WHSMITH, then got Spectrum, Spectrum 128K, Acorn Electron, VIC20, Tatung Einstein (yep I bought one of those), C64 and then Atari ST. Then grew up into PC's with my first 286 which I then bravely upgraded the board for a 386DX40 then off we went to 486, Pent 1, 2, 3 and now 4. Have to admit on all machines we build I fit AMD processors (OEM's! ) Haven't dabbled in the new dual core stuff but very tempted. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateurandy Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 it doesn't make it more legal at all if you don't buy any hardware.. eg. if you buy it with hd - then when that hd leaks its smoke out you should buy a new one (hd and os).. Not necessarily. If you build your own PC and install an OEM OS it could be legal, even if the hardware is actually an old branded PC that you've wiped. It all depends on the wording of the OEM license agreement..... And replacing bits (including HD) is fine as noted before - I've done it many times quite legally with help from the dreaded Microsoft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BASS Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 Well guys loaded the VISTA ULTIMATE into my machine and it's brill I wouldn't go back to XP the features and graphics are outstanding as well as the security in it. The media centre is a lot better. I would highly recommend it to you's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateurandy Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Well guys loaded the VISTA ULTIMATE into my machine and it's brill I wouldn't go back to XP the features and graphics are outstanding as well as the security in it. The media centre is a lot better. I would highly recommend it to you's Just as a footnote for anyone who buys a Vista upgrade, I found this interesting page of information today: http://www.instantvista.com/windows-vista-upgrade.html Basically, it explains how you can actually do a totally clean install of Vista using the upgrade version, i.e. not carrying over all the dross from your old and degrading XP or 2000 setup. Now legally of course you have to have the correct OS on the PC to upgrade, but I haven't seen anything in Microsoft's T's & C's that says you can't wipe it off first (someone prove me wrong...). So if, like me, you like to have a clean install this could be of interest. Footnote; I have one PC running (100% legal) Vista Ultimate and I have tried various installation routes (it's a test system). Upgrading from XP had several odd issues that just went away on a clean install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR3G Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I have the Release to manafactures edition, Just need the key for it.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesutton Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Well guys i got a new laptop last week with vista home premium with the pentium dual core and its amazing takes a bit of gettin used to from xp but looks good so far. I spoke to microsoft and not all software will work with vista yet, Zone alarm in particular and got to try all my fire panel software yet. Just ordered a new cat 5e tester so i hope the software works with vista otherwise thats  Lee Sutton E-Mail: leesutton@centurianfire.co.uk Website: www.centurianfire.co.uk Phone: 0845 094 9870 CENTURIAN FIRE & SECURITY (part of centurian group limited) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luggsey Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Can you upgrade to vista from Windows 98? (I have a genuine copy of 98 ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is like a box of chocolates, some bugger always gets the nice ones! My Amateur Radio Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateurandy Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Can you upgrade to vista from Windows 98? (I have a genuine copy of 98 ) If a PC was designed for W98 it is highly unlikely to run Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luggsey Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 If a PC was designed for W98 it is highly unlikely to run Vista. Dohh, I mean the disk, PC will be ok don't worry! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is like a box of chocolates, some bugger always gets the nice ones! My Amateur Radio Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purevisioncctv Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Windows Vista is also slightly same as the Windows XP proffessional. If you keep the CD then you may know the steps to proceed But the vista's look is much beautiful than XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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