Guest Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I'm not saying they are a bad panel (thats reserved for the veritas) ?? I didn't say it wasn't, I said it's Distribution made it DIY, not it's construction. okay? Same person wrote both manuals..... i know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB_ Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 I'm in Gleadless but the new house is in Chesterfield. Yay !! Big up the Chezzie massive. Booo, to the Yorkshire people, welcome to a friendly county. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest italiastar Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 I'm not saying they are a bad panel (thats reserved for the veritas) but DIY definatelyRegards Bellman Dare I ask what's wrong with the Veritas? All the "professionals" where I bought my kit recommended the Scantronics - according to some posts on this site that is unreliable, noisy (mains hum) and in my opionion has an eyesore of a keypad - so why is the Veritas bad and what would you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellman Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Dare I ask what's wrong with the Veritas? All the "professionals" where I bought my kit recommended the Scantronics - according to some posts on this site that is unreliable, noisy (mains hum) and in my opionion has an eyesore of a keypad - so why is the Veritas bad and what would you recommend? I'm not going to go over old ground again, but as you say, it's unreliable, noisy (mains hum like an electric motorized wasp on speed) and in my opinion has an eyesore of a keypad. I had a hell of a time with them many many years ago and as with all "fingers burned" episodes that was me and the veritas finished. Try making extensive use of the search facility so kindly provided by Dave and all will become clear as to why i'm set in my opinion. Scantronic kit is good, the reason I recomended the premier was the easy to follow instructions. A Proper engineer would know how to wire a tamper loop or a powered detector to a panel so wouldn't need the same type of instructions as provided with the texecom stuff. I've already made my recomondation BTW, for DIY fit a premier. any electrical wholesaler or market stall (I kid you not, the local market has them for sale) will supply you one and most of the accessories are also available and the price is cheap, you can buy a complete premier system with all the accessories FITTED for less money than you could buy a galaxy panel on it's own for. Most people will have absolutely no use for most of the advanced functions the galaxy provides though so from a functionality point of view there is no difference in them buying a premier or a galaxy, Myself, I have an all singing and dancing galaxy 504 installed. but there again, I'm a professional alarm engineer so know how to both wire and program it to make best use of it's facilities and functions. Regards Bellman Quote Service Engineer and all round nice bloke ) The views above are mine and NOT those of my employer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 I'm not going to go over old ground again, but as you say, it's unreliable, noisy (mains hum like an electric motorized wasp on speed) and in my opinion has an eyesore of a keypad. I had a hell of a time with them many many years ago and as with all "fingers burned" episodes that was me and the veritas finished. Transformers would seem to come from the same source as the other usual cheap panels, either you had the very early stuff where the tranny dropped into a plastic ade style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellman Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Transformers would seem to come from the same source as the other usual cheap panels, either you had the very early stuff where the tranny dropped into a plastic ade style Quote Service Engineer and all round nice bloke ) The views above are mine and NOT those of my employer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Most other panels give block or functional diagrams and these use electrical symbols, not little pics of door contacts and passives like the texecom ones do. I'm supprised they don't come with a free pack of crayons as well. most low end stuff does see 9448+ style, the crayons are by voucher redemption Yup, proffesional equipment costs a lot of money, Am I to take it from that you got yours from ebay for a fiver pay for software when gardtec scantronic, menvier ds give it free, unless these are not proffesional equipment now, ask yourself one question if the ash group had not been spilt up where would have the galaxy gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antinode Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 I'm supprised they don't come with a free pack of crayons as well. Regards Bellman sad but true! Quote Trade Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellman Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 most low end stuff does. Ah, so you agree with me the texecoms are low end. pay for software when gardtec scantronic, menvier ds give it free, unless these are not proffesional equipment now. They are but there is better availible. The local ford dealer throws in free floor mats, you have to pay for them at the local BMW Garage As with most things in life, you get what you pay for... ask yourself one question if the ash group had not been spilt up where would have the galaxy gone? Well, considering Ash group bought Lander, who had the predicessor to the Big G (The Executive) made for them by a small new co called microtech well before ash group got involved then probably it'd still be in private hands and would have hopefully flourished. Regards Bellman Quote Service Engineer and all round nice bloke ) The views above are mine and NOT those of my employer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Well, considering Ash group bought Lander, who had the predicessor to the Big G (The Executive) made for them by a small new co called microtech well before ash group got involved then probably it'd still be in private hands and would have hopefully flourished. Never worked for lander But have installed Executive 250's not the most stable product, I do foundly remember the pile on stock room floor which we removed because they where useless........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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