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You are crazy! Any of those wires could be Live, building could be unstable, or fall down. What do your parents think about you sleeping in an abandoned building?
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Leaving the house at all could potentially aid the spread of the virus...
Not seen them before, can see why they discontinued it though. Whouldn't want that on my house, it doesn't look very nice. Although it is interesting.
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Yes, I am quite interested in these boxes, I nearly bought another on eBay, but that what do I do with them when I have them? They sit in a cupboard collecting dust, although they are an interesting piece of history, so recognisable. Even a lot of eBay listings mention them as being 'Like ADT' or 'The same as ADT' probably one of my favourite boxes, along with the Rapier.
Wouldn't say no to a white one, just to match my current one.
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Interesting, either way the new one looks terrible, in comparison. Then again, customers do not care. I have the Mk II version, with a metal backplate and an Elmdene PCB mounted to it, dated 1992. I'd imagine that was made in the UK, but at the end of the day, I guess it is more economically viable to make them in China. I am surprised that there is no manufacturer mentioned on the moulding for the cover though. I can seee how they had a Eurobell in mind when designing this cover, shame that's not made today
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Thought so, I have an Elmdene one, recently the current user of these boxes has changed the moulding, so the Strobe comes half way up the side now. Don't know what was wrong with the older design
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1 hour ago, datadiffusion said:
FML, just bought this Scantronic curiosity...
Since it was never sold as anything else, gawd knows what they paid to have it developed.
Was it Scantronic who originally made those Hexagon bells for Modern?
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29 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said:
BNIB?
Yeah, although I never had the instructions for it, not ever connected it up. Interesting box and old logo.
36 minutes ago, MrHappy said:I do love the water mark on the pic's...
That's just me
no particular reason for them
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This might be of some interest...
Viper Vibration Sensor. 1986 is the date, so it is 34 years old, well the PCB design is. Shares the same case as the V-Foam
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8 minutes ago, MrHappy said:
I think alarms is a declining market, most small manufactures of alarm stuff have gone.
A bell box is plastic moulding & electronics for £20 odd,
A tool box is plastic mounding no electronics & about £20 odd ?
I know what you mean, a tool box would be a good idea, but I can't just make one and expect to sell it. What is your tool box missing that you could do with? If I can find a problem with a product fix it, I can have a much better chance of someone investing. E.g. Gabs goes to Dragon's Den, he has to convince the savages sat in front of him his product is worth selling, a product the same as 1000s of others on the market. However, if he can show that he has found a problem and fixed it he will more likely get money for a factory and an injection moulding machine... Then MrHappy will buy it because he is happy a problem he identified has been solved. Is there anything that poses a problem in your work-related life you could do with being solved?
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15 minutes ago, al-yeti said:
Change title to gabs in security market
Ha ha just seeing what it takes to get into it... I'm quite an entrepreneurial person. Just thought because I have knowledge of this industry I might have a better chance of getting going, even something small at first. I could design a quality bell box for example
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Cound create a central lighting control unit? People interested in that sort of stuff?
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19 minutes ago, james.wilson said:
the google thing will be diy its a bigger market.
I understand that, and they are a bigger market. What would you suggest? Literally just after ideas at this point
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I guess that's true, I was after any ideas though, like what do you guys/girls/other feel you could do with at work, or something that would be a good idea. I was thinking of designing a PSU, that can power many different things, from LED lights to extra alarm accessories. I know the likes of Google are trying to get into the market, but would you rather install some weird Google alarm, or some hard wired equipment from a British company?
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Thought this would be a good place to ask: are there any gaps in the security market, to do with anything? Panels? Bell Boxes? sounders? I understand when starting a business (ideally manufacturing) I need to identify where there is a gap and build on how it can be solved. Any ideas are good, I thought this would be a good place to ask because there are many people here with a great knowledge of the security business and how it is changing. Any help/suggestions are really appreciated.
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Yeah, I am guessing that they were injection moulded. I wonder if CQR still have the tooling for them? Probs cost a lot to make/have made, with them being so big. Maybe that Odyssey was. on a South-Facing wall, so therefore it would have had a lot more sun than one on a North-Facing Wall
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9 hours ago, al-yeti said:
Steel ones rusted proper but we're solid lol
Did the manufacturers not make an effort to cover them with a rust-proof paint? Rather than a standard paint?
7 hours ago, james.wilson said:Polyprop was poor but yes polycarb is good. Back then it was self cert/true its a bit different now
If I vacuum formed my own cover for a CQR Multibox, I would worry that it would end up bulging and flaking away
Red one at the top is Polycarb I think bit the bottom one lost all of its colour and is bulging out at the sides polypropylene, lots more polypropylene around me, all flaking apart
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21 minutes ago, MrHappy said:
plastics where faded but otherwise prefect
Other week I took down an odyssey 2 from 2002 & it just fell apart...
Isn't it the Polypropylene ones that flake apart? And the Polycarbonate ones that stay looking good and sturdy?
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4 minutes ago, MrHappy said:
a bell is expensive & really heavy
I'd assume a speaker & the sound of mechanical bell would be the modern way to do it
Do you think people would buy it/be interested? Just a standard speaker like an extension style speaker? I know of an amplifier circuit and would be able to find some sort of sound generation IC out there.
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6 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said:
I fail to see why you would want mechanical devices that are quieter and can wear over a piezo.
Would have thought it was because they are more distinctive like the Piezo, I could have a go at designing something that looks modern and slim yet has a bell, like a EuroBell, just been thinking of manufacturing processes that could be used to make such a bell box..
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5 hours ago, MrHappy said:
that's the item...
this unit had failed, a siren had been added inside the box which had also failed...
Seen a few of them. Don't know why they were made so big, since it is all slim electronics. Do you still think there is any market for bell boxes that use real bells?
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18 minutes ago, MrHappy said:
ripped this of the wall on Friday-
Looks interesting, I think I have seen them before Look like this?
Did it still work when you took it down?
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1 hour ago, MrHappy said:
After selling ADE the names behind it had a second go with MDT which didn't do so well
The PCB is marked as http://www.gspkcircuits.ltd.uk
ADE Sold to Novar and in turn to Honeywell? Funny how Honeywell own them, yet the newest Accentas still say ADE on them. I would be interested to get my oscilloscope on that Avanti and compare the serial data to an Accentas. I bet they would be the same or similar. So, GSPK make the boards, I wonder if they are also involved in the circuit design? Or thaw as done by whoever previously worked at ADE and left when they were sold?
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14 minutes ago, MrHappy said:
@gabs you seen this tat before?
Avanti? Never seen or used one, why? The IC is Philips, not seen that before. And the T A D B Bell connections make me think of ADE
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Yeah, I have a 6v one, stolen from the PCB of my dead hexagon Modern Alarms bell box, was happy for me to put in 12v all day, drew no current, didn't get hot and it held a charge fine, probably how most SABs do the charging, constantly cutting power into the battery, through the Hold-Off Voltage
Interesting Old 'Original' Viper
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