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get your property to finished surfaces - oh, I think I have a burglar alarm....

If you do get a supply of them... unlikely to get a large quantity from a wholesaler if they even have them listed; I would suggest to replace as part of any maintenance. The transparent wiring cover will easily flick out at the hinge with correct application of a flat screwdriver, so you could have covers ready to go with spare wiring covers (buy a few dummies). I know it's not the point but you could consider getting some adhesive 12v LED tape instead, most thinner stuff can be cut at 8-10cm sections make them up ready to go. It's less hassle to go forward using the same box if you want, but not offering or connecting the illumination. As I say I don't offer illuminated sounders every now and then a new customer enquires about them, I ask if they have or have applied for planning permission to have one and then explain the details of this. If the customer even wanted to put the effort in to apply, your unlikely to get it granted in a domestic situation. No neighbour wants to look at your light up advert looking across the road in the evening... more importantly, I don't feel they should have to either.

Isn't the iwise bus a bus detector that will only work on a risco panel? You have also probably blown the fuse or panel. Wires shouldn't 'touch'

Tat alarms & naff doorbells is what the public want...

I know its warm, but put your dressing gown on...

Just consider permanently illuminated external sounders require planning permission, if the decal space is used. I would disable anyway. Make sure the controls are in full working order, charging rates, voltages etc; before only replacing the siren.

Sounds like someone else over specced and it ended up in your van...

AIUI in that situation it's still all the same rules and repayments but HMRC no longer have access to your tax code or income, so you have to provide evidence. If you disappear your rate is charged the maximum monthly amount and you are charged interest on late payments.

There is always something else to do...

This is why to be admissible in court the recordings have to be in original format and watermarked. MP4 is okay for minor crimes where in most cases the crim puts his hands up when he sees the footage because he doesnt know the rules. But if you need evidence that sticks it must be in original format

Mice fart louder than most current external sounders Sticking lots of stuff on the alarm means lost of current drawn in alarm all my P24 need 9Ah batterys

The corcern is the installer is liable if your system fails to perform. I understand their position and they are correct. Don't know orisec and not sure it can be locked. I would. However if your out of support with your maintainer they should default the panel (at a cost if visit required). No your not locked into them assuming you own the hardware. But the programming may be theirs. A default protects everyone so that's the way to go

this is the windows one which is part of the full tablet app that runs the engineers fault finding tracking etc

Not in the panel programming. You would need to add a pulse relay or use a sounder with 2 different inputs

I assume his McManison was built with stolen stuff & he's just got out of HMP Forest Bank ?

Not totally, remember the insurance companies lost a lot of money through covid and with weather events too.

Get deed pole change name to James wilsingh then sorted

Cut and past the same stuff twice. Infra red is the detection method not what the detector is looking for, infra red detector detects heat or infra red radiation. Its unlikely that anyone can cover themselves up enough not to give off any heat at all . The ambient temp of the room versus the temp of the person. Even if the person was wearing a foil suit and giving off no heat (unlikely) he would be interrupting heat sources in the room. I would be looking a bit closer, what happens when you set the alarm and then walk in front of detectors? Nothing of what you have said makes any sense its almost as if your making excuses for the poor performance of your design

Also in that environment lots of rf devices about. Is everything well shielded

Looks like the chequebook lads thanks for all your replies.

I have mad ideas for charities- A homeless outreach, we pick up all the street drinkers, get 'em cheap suits/ frocks from matalan & hit the ebor festival...

Isn't there some rule about swearing at people on this forum?

I eat cannibal,It's incredible...

dunno, TBH I couldn't give a Castlemaine 4x

probably not, plus id check with your insurer to see if your covered to install chinise made bombs in customers sites that dont have any uk based safty certs!!

The only solid state smoke ive come across is when you accidently put the wrong voltage in something. This generally lets the smoke out of it. Ive found that its the smoke that makes electronic stuff work, because once you have let all the smoke out of a component it never works again.

Normally your final exit doors would be 'final' you entry route zones would be exit. The use intruder for the rest not on the entry /exit route

Use one of these at far end and link two windows , perhaps you can seperate them this way rather all the windows on one circuit https://www.citysecuritysystems.co.uk/honeywell-dodt8m

DEOL (Double End of Line), will never work correctly without the shunt resistor across the zone in the device. You will also not find a panel that supports much more than 3 devices via DEOL. Your current system is SEOL which you could get away with that.

I have seen many diffrent installation styles over the years, Clips vs staples, surface run vs hidden, taught vs slack. Personaly I take pride in my 1st fix and cabling and do it properly but that does slow you down. The work I observed with a contractor on a new build housing estate was so slopppy that I pulled him up on it, his justification was that he had targets to hit and they dont pay him enough to give a **** And there seems to be the problem paying **** money to general contractors under pressure to get the job done as quickly as possible. If I had paid good money for a new house I would expect the cable for the window sensor to be run through the upvc window frame and under the window sill not surface run and poorly clipped As mentioned BS7671 is a good place to start for general regs

You say it's not an option... but that's what I would do. Wouldn't entertain all that stuff on one zone.

We have had a rather large upgrade, some new features but mainly security. Let me know if you have any issues. James

Hackers would probably target people with £ rather tan gash cctv ?

Yeah

White light filters minimise the risk of a FA, sometimes installations don't lend themselves to installing the best way. Especially in retro situations. Often for example on a landing the best corner is over the stairs. I wouldn't install there due to future access issues so then your usually left with facing a window. They have some tolerance but you minimise the risks just like anything else. I'm not saying a good quality quad couldn't be fine. When you have the option available you install them in the best possible corners. Which the simple version is always pointing away from sources of light and heat (the sun) and perpendicular to the movement of any possible intruder. All manufacturers instructions say this and if you ignore it and have a false alarm it's your own fault. Had a job Tuesday were some tool had pointed a Honeywell PIR at a patio door in an open plan extension, it had false alarmed every day all the week prior. The system is 5 months old fitted by some clueless spark (scribbled colours/terminals on manuals...), seems to be a mess. It's only just started these FA's but you can see from the time in the log it's happening during the day when it's competing with the sun on the back patio. Re-siting has solved it, maybe a quad could but I don't see that as the correct solution... it's just a workaround, the bad positioning was the issue and would still be there IMO. Anyway, tis true G3 is pointless at a DIY level, it's much greater chance of headaches than ever genuinely detecting what it's there for. It could also affect everything I am saying about positioning. For example, they are designed for open commercial spaces if your fitting in corners with possibly of curtains or tall furniture you may have to consider a less ideal corner. Master bed you have cupboard doors opening onto the ideal corners, this will likely cause a mask. Or if not and maybe you left the doors open you have no detection. There is more to design than the ideal manufacturers instructions or looking at top view building plans and more unnecessary issues to jungle throwing G3 components in the mix.

Pastels

Zamunda ?

Also considering millennials are the majority generation your going to do well to right them off...

Arf is that you?

As above the panel is really old I'd check it's OK before bolting bits on

Hi Brian Welcome, any branded sounder will be suitable replacements, but the terminology used between brands is normally different. The paragon is an old panel and was made before Pyronix bought out Castle and so its likely the older panels will have different terminology then later products

- infectious laughter ?? Local to me there's one on a "Jewellers", They must be uninsured as there will be a requirement to have a proper graded alarm holding a police URN to Intruder & Hold Up for the insurer to provide cover ? You needed graded equipment designed for the UK market, most the stuff the proper alarm co's use is sold to every tom, dick & harry... Having an expensive set of marples chisel dose'nt make any one a joiner ?

It's ungraded DIY tat that sends all your data to Amazon?

none of the ones listed....

here's a car from 1994- do you seen many in daily use ?

you buying used items from ebay ? I don't believe this keyboard- works with those machines, I think this keyboard is circa 8 year old

? 4603 would be early 90's radio tat ??

I haven't seen anything like this for a long time, vaguely remember something about these being ultrsonics?