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  1. Cunts that text and drive want their fingers broken never mind banned.
    6 points
  2. well I guess that's me on the naughty step - If you want to be an alarm man get a job with an alarm company. You not going to get any much experience buying tat from ebay, reading books or asking on an alarm themed forum
    5 points
  3. yes if you have posted your serial no for your bell box we could have located it on the internet, selected abba on your alexa & turn the central heating up to maximum...
    5 points
  4. My last post on this forum was nearly 5 years ago. I have came out of retirement to tell you this... I down-voted your last post.
    5 points
  5. Until someone invented something that puts our industry in jeopardy
    5 points
  6. you would have been caught on videofied....
    5 points
  7. there ain't none, however there are a set of big boys rules.... when taking other peoples tat over you either have to the product knowledge of how to over come any lock or quirks of the product or have enough £ in the job to put your own stuff in from either the start or retain the subscriber for enough years to make it pay.. confiture demain, as you might say ? Sadly a few hundred quid for new control can be a problem as the subscribers can be living had to month with the latest I-Phones, Range Rovers & shirt sponsoring the local professional sports team... taking priority
    4 points
  8. I'd give 'em a new system provide they have maintenance & out the yale tat on ebay or in the bin if don't sell...
    4 points
  9. If your looking for a security forum with no pisstaking.... you've made the wrong choice You'll need an eng code to make programming changes to your system, a 1/2 decent alarm monkey could probably move all your devices about with just a customer code
    4 points
  10. you do chat shit.... ADT employ the very best & sometimes the very worst engineers, However there the market leading co. why don't you try & get a job there & get some real world experience of alarms ?
    4 points
  11. I don`t think, £13 a month for an annual inspection, 24 hour support, and use of a Smartphone APP is not bad value for money, technicians have to be trained, which be available 24 x 7, if self employed they also have to pay for life`s little things, food, fuel, Public Liability Insurance, fund there own training time, none of which is paid etc etc. funny how people accept paying say for a Private Dentist, Doctor, Solicitor etc, but fail to realise the vast amount of knowledge a professional installer has to collect from experience. To be fair, we use bundles of Agility 3, but really there is little money in the initial sale, for us, maintenance is where we make our money to provide on going technical support, technicians and all the other things we need to pay. For example today we are having our Upgrade NSI inspection from NSI for ISO 9001:2015, so I`m paying £450 per day for NSI & £440 per day for our Contract Quality Assurance Consultant, all paid by maintenance contributions, and all to retain our Gold Status, end of.
    4 points
  12. Oh dear "Jock McTightSporran" is asking a forum which mainly populated alarm monkeys why their employed. What goes wrong with your simple house alarm? Well there will be at least 2 battery's which don't last forever, reed contacts which will eventually fail (open or closed) or cause false alarm.... same for the relays within powered sensors Checking a bells only system annually as per BS/EN ensures they work correctly (think MOT) if you where a paying subscriber you could have your system in working order rather spending your spare time hunting down a manual for the old tat of an alarm on your wall. However you pays your money & make your choice, Power down the "skip fodder" of an alarm system & restart it on mains power only, with all tamper & lids close it made take you code If not buy something like a veritas 8 & new battery & have a bash at sort it Or find a local alarm co. (proper ones might only do the work if their maintaining it) & ask for cost of them updating the system
    4 points
  13. If it is so simple why are you talking about wiring normally closed detectors in parallel or dualtechs for detecting bricks? My question was because your initial few posts seemed like you were a sparky who had bitten off more than you can chew on a clients job. Happy bodging.
    4 points
  14. Exactly Norman, hence why I am asking the question on a professional security forum. Haven't fitted many myself but thought I would seek advice. Nothing worse than fitting ***** that you keep getting called back for.
    4 points
  15. All master blasters must be fitted directly above the keypad for use on bell tests
    4 points
  16. Wait until you try prising the sounder apart on a ladder....
    3 points
  17. Have a look on youtube how to defeat diy stuff for starters Cheap is never really cheerful
    3 points
  18. If the alarm is in good working order, having the power off a few hours wouldn't cause any issues. It's a common misconception that alarms sound if the mains goes off but that is actually a sign they are unmaintained and faulty. PA would likely activate if connected, so you would need the code before you can silence it. I assume any monitoring would be cancelled at this point but worth checking that too.
    3 points
  19. Just asking? More than just asking dude ...... You mean like special brew ? Your favourite?
    3 points
  20. Sorry don't get excited, I don't recall working on one either, but just a word of caution I suppose. You have to consider it's a life safety system, its one thing fumbling though programming on intruder worst case in most instances if something was wrong would be a fail to operate and possibly damage or stolen items, not advised but it's not life. It depends on if you are just providing operational checks or if your expected to repair faults and re-commissioning, you would only need Level 2 access for the former. I know you didn't put yourself in this position when sales want to takeover any old tat but it is worth mentioning to them it's kit that none of the engineers know how to use properly, if something needs adjusting. Your right not everyone knows everything about every piece of kit but this is why companies have a list of preferred kit, try to stick to it and train there engineers on it. Leaves less to go wrong.
    3 points
  21. Thanks for letting me know, but any way I wasn't looking for any answer here. Not sure if it's ok to reply to posts with unrelated messages but I will slow my self this time. I'm just very new in this forum and still trying to catch up with the local culture.
    3 points
  22. dont know it but even the micromax has an input. Id assume it was wired wrong. Once met someone that thought wiring the breakglass to the rte was better than breaking the power as it allowed for programming!!!
    3 points
  23. it appears "cooper security" have a new product range ?
    3 points
  24. Does not compute LOL just about sums the market up. £2k budget for HA £20 budget for security panel
    3 points
  25. Yeah but that's because it takes you an hour to walk there gramps Awwww.
    3 points
  26. 3 points
  27. yeah I'm more a Phillips observation kit, soft of guy......
    3 points
  28. Stop brown nosing the vetter.
    3 points
  29. so far I have watched 15min of the fuck witted porridge wog fit a data cabinet like a 1st week YTS...# Again my life is too short for this....
    3 points
  30. I didn't say I had £2k in my wallet I just said it would fit, as opposed to your idea of £2k filling a suitcase which it wouldnt (unless it was a very small suitcase) Your the only numb nut round here that's compensating for the lack of something.
    3 points
  31. Leave it in your freezer over night in a plastic bag and it defaults
    3 points
  32. Probably for the best, otherwise you may end up like DD...
    3 points
  33. I note you don't collect vintage hoovers...
    3 points
  34. I am still getting plenty of people applying for trade without posting, I am unable to put you as trade if you have not made at least five posts, the system will not let me so post if you want trade access. If you cant follow these simple instructions then try facebook there is a security forum on there that seems to be full of plums that cant read.
    3 points
  35. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Haynes-Car-Manual-Mk2-Fiesta-Xr2-/152843816501
    3 points
  36. Needs filler , must be a jb subbed out , they don't fill
    3 points
  37. ADI, Mag solutions http://www.magnetic-solutions.co.uk/ shear lock interface
    3 points
  38. The reed is just little bit of metal in glass tube.... I reckon most of the branded alarm contact manufactures buy in the same Reeds... The gases escapes for the glass tube & they either FA or just fail (open or closed) I suspect those the fail early have been thrown around or the screws knocked in with a hammer when fitted IIRC 13mm operating gap, thats look way too far apart
    3 points
  39. I think the above is where you went wrong Ray. If you go back prior to this statement most people giving up their free time to help you were quite willing. Think about the above statement, you come to a website full of people making a living out of security and make out that a 10 year old with chock block tourrettes could do their job. What sort of reaction did you think that would provoke?? Its a bit like us saying anyone can run a Cafe but it would seem not, looking at your reviews. Your alarm system is very poorly installed but I suspect that you didnt really do any homework before your purchase like check reviews or see if they were approved, at least if you had chosen an approved co you could complain to the Worshipful Company of Security Installers and Brethren Of Domotics (Plymouth Chapter). Someone has probably already mentioned this, but changing the detectors to dualtechs will not detect bricks btw, bricks are not burglars. The alarm going off after the window was smashed would not have made any difference either. The window would still be broken and the unhappy customer would still have run away long before anyone noticed.
    3 points
  40. I suspect- The kids used to hand around the building before its was gentrified into a cafe, & the kids have been told to "F off" with the same sort of "customer service" mentioned on trip advisor, hence low flying bricks Should Raymondo be viewing - you security film the windows/ graphic the windows which keeps broken glass together, get a security co. to visit after hrs. Go to proper alarm co. & ask them to remove the ade pirs & black painted ventcroft, you want a proper graded system with proper signalling & a Merseyside Police URN. Don't mention you paid a grand for the old alarm as they may laugh their cocks off...
    3 points
  41. Ahh that one, the dimsum jingaling loveyoulongtimex22 model? good image? many failures?
    3 points
  42. I'd assume the keypads need enabling in engineering ? What mind bending drugs in qty to stun a horse did you take before making the bright idea to purchase a prosys ?
    3 points
  43. You'd be better installing something that's not tat or likely to cause you revisits and generates recurring revenue. Customers have no idea what they want.
    3 points
  44. I do think its a bit unfair to get an installer from gumtree then assume pro installers are the same
    3 points
  45. As a beginner you need to understand that this is a professional security forum, as such posting engineering codes in the public area or any other area for that matter is not permitted, why I hear you ask? Well when you are supplying security on a professional basis you leave yourself wide open if someone posts your engineering codes for all to view on a public website. Your customers would not like it if someone posted your engineer codes, and its the same for anyone else. Its not done. Any professional security installer would not need to ask for other companies engineers code, as any professional company would default the system and re program it, it is the only way you know that the system is programmed correctly. Only lazy unprofessional numpties ask for other companies engineer codes, try and remember that and maybe you will get past the beginner stage.
    3 points
  46. Quite often burglars are drug users. The purpose of a strobe is if the burglar has dropped an e recently and they see a strobe light they will stop what they are doing and start dancing like a loon. The strobe can keep them dancing for up to 12 hours, which is almost long enough for police to attend and catch them. If they can be bothered.
    3 points
  47. None of us are pretending anything, there has been and all ways will be ways around security systems, so long as the kit is one step ahead of the type of burglar expected then whats to worry about? I understand that there are vulnerabilities with some of the signalling options available, but I also understand the risk and anyone with any real intelligence are unlikely to want to risk their freedom for low value. On the other hand if something is worth protecting then its worth protecting properly that means understanding the risk. I have been in this industry for over 25 years now and I cant think of a burglary where any real technical intelligence has been used. Though I have seen many clever burglaries in my time
    3 points
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