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  4. Cool dude , but I do also agree with what your saying , after all , you guys got much more experience than me in this industry Ask for a free connection to try it ? For your premises
  5. Hopefully nobody noticed but there have been a few upgrades on tsi. Mainly aiming for speed improvement on mobile mainly if anyone has seen a speed increase.
  6. Be interesting to know a little more about it. Maybe an actual reason to got to the nec
  7. who's gonna be the guinea pig & have all the issues ?
  8. i think we will have to agree to disagree Al
  9. Encryption isn't the issue , it's product, industry has moved on and no one cares No but we talking alarm signals that no one is interested in ordering trying to intercept much
  10. i wouldnt want to send anything over IP without encryption. Al it your password 1234 or P4ssw0rd?
  11. Even insurance with no idea specify "Redcare or equivalent"... They were the market leader years ago and priorities change, there wasn't much they could do with the product the downsides were part of it's design. Agile/Secure mitigated that for years. Without Redcare Classic they are no longer tied to doing security, to people higher up its probably easier to fold at this point. I think you underestimate how much encryption you use on a daily basis...
  12. So as said boasting it's encryption and continuous monitoring But they didn't get much bigger in recent years and not many need or want to pay for it So espionage and spies and the mission impossible bank robber , no one really needs this service , and Hatton gardens didn't push anyone to change much either These days as long as they have insurance they start to care less
  13. Ive yet to meet anyone that didnt like redcare classic/gsm.
  14. Really? Encryption is fundamental to any secure data that needs transmitting, this concept does back centuries to well before computers. Original Redcare was an amazing product back in the day, it would work over wet string, had continuous encrypted signalling and 30s polling with no data costs. Nothing will be able to copy it, it requires having the infrastructure. Obviously there were downsides to the product which will explain the wind down. Everyone is jumping on the massive strength of the Redcare brand to sell there new tat. The product name is known fairly well outside the industry.
  15. if you have an additional 2 circuits where the 6 core goes back to (im assuming panel) then just use a pair for each contact (ie red/blk contact 1, blu/yell contact2 etc) and program the panel to the correct eol values. Wiring should be in the manual but if not just say and ill dig out an image. But also bear in mind how the contacts are installed. If there is an issue there however you wire them you will have problems. Post a picture of the 3 with the door closed please
  16. encryption prevents data being in sent in plain so it cant be read or intercepted. If sent in plain you could send the an open or an abort signal etc without it actually coming from the spt
  17. It's not just 1 contact tho, it's 3... EOL will be wired different at the controls end. Assuming this is three single doors, convert your 6-core into a data line for an expander adjacent to the first door, take single cables from the expander to each door. Wire it however you want not sure if Orisec supports DP from an Exp. EOL would be better but you could have issues with stuffing 1/4W resistors in tiny old style contacts if your reusing them. Most would replace the contacts. Program panel accordingly. This has the benefits of:- single fault will only take out one door, you can isolate doors individually, you know which door has an alarm or fault without taking the lot to bits, your cable to the sheds is a data line instead of DP so it's tampered in a better way.
  18. No sarcasm, but redcare what is it if not boasting about there encryption over the years constantly monitoring blah What did it offer ?
  19. Didn’t really want to get a expander for one door contact how would I do the eol contact wiring it is 6 core would anything need doing in control panel
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  21. News to me, the legal info is missing from each of the websites, google finds the info regardless This was only interesting bit of info for me- 4000 x £150 is £600k which is not a lot of money for running an arc ?? (yes cctv pays more, however something like a smartcom will pay less) I guess at - https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11798207
  22. everything should be encrypted especially in security unless i missed the sarcasm?
  23. Who really needs encryption these days , military? And then they would have there own coms realistically or just use guns
  24. I assume if enough cores then not enough zones left and don't want to buy an expander ?
  25. Also if its just std surfac door contacts how close / inline are they? Are they decent ones? maybe a picture of how they are fitted. As 6 says as you can now see fault finding is needed as all you know is its one of the 3 rather than identifying 1 contact. However if its stable with 2 and unstable with 3 id suggest its local to the 3rd. I presume as 6 its double pole and you havnt hidden resistors somewhere
  26. Nope, some of H's chums over in six finger land Orion Elastimers apparently.
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