bazza1981 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Hi Im just upgrading an old system with lots of shock contacts on the system and replacing with a euro 46 app panel having trouble with panel saying input/area mismatch, 1st time using the panel and looking through the manual cant see any reference to this, also im doubling up on zones 2 shocks at most as wiring is looped in areas so no other choice its a while since i used resistors should it be 4k7 at 1st contact then 4k7 2k2 at end contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 no afaik only the galaxy supports eol like that also the area mismatch iirc means you have things in areas but no keypad assigned etc Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Yep as above it always threw me why people though you could 'chain' EOL then found out that gal supports it! Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Texecom also support multiple shunts up to three devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza1981 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 ok thanks what way should resistors be then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza1981 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 also James no keypads assigned etc do you mean keypad not numbered ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 You can't, without bodging the shunt loops around with spare pairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza1981 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 ok whats my options then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: Texecom also support multiple shunts up to three devices. Oh right, have only fitted a handful of Prem's and didn't know that! A couple have double doors but I just did one door per zone. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza1981 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 the panel does have an option for n/c and tamper for each zone probably a better option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza1981 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 just contacted pyronix they said eol on two devices will work 2 Contacts to 1 Zone 4k7_2k2.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said: You can't, without bodging the shunt loops around with spare pairs. Marvellous, lets hope the intermediate wire isn't crushed or shorted, which would read as a permanent secure zone at the panel. Well done Pyronix for having this bodge documented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 4 hours ago, datadiffusion said: Yep as above it always threw me why people though you could 'chain' EOL then found out that gal supports it! TS Menvier & early Premier did multipal eol devices Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 4 hours ago, james.wilson said: no afaik only the galaxy supports eol like that also the area mismatch iirc means you have things in areas but no keypad assigned etc + aslso radio devices added but not zones not programmed / zoned programmed radio device not learnt Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amps Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, bazza1981 said: just contacted pyronix they said eol on two devices will work 2 Contacts to 1 Zone 4k7_2k2.pdf Lol I can imagine our service engineers getting confused by that. Keep it simple is the moto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Amps said: Lol I can imagine our service engineers getting confused by that. Keep it simple is the moto! I'd say its much easier way to do 2 devices in series but use different resistor values? Edited September 1, 2017 by MrHappy Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amps Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 18 minutes ago, MrHappy said: I'd say its much easier way to do 2 devices in series but use different resistor values? We normally fit Knight G2 contacts that allow for this. YEND74 MULTI.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza1981 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 It's an old job with shock contacts is the document from pyronix not a good idea to use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Amps said: We normally fit Knight G2 contacts that allow for this. YEND74 MULTI.pdf I reckon theres a easier way to wire double doors on a euro than their diagram Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 17 hours ago, bazza1981 said: It's an old job with shock contacts is the document from pyronix not a good idea to use? you could use their diagram or use dp. best to not but u do have existing cabling to work with Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 If your using EOL/DEOL/TEOL the EOL resistor should be at the furthest point in the wiring, anything else is just abusing the whole point of EOL in the first place. DP would be more secure than EOL if wired like the diagram shown above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike27 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 New link to our ever popular Grade 3 surface contact YEND74 below: http://www.knightfireandsecurity.com/product/grade-3-surface-contact-suitable-for-double-doors-with-mid-suits-all-panels-white/ Quote http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=74794063 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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