John Charnock Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Hi, I am looking for an outdoor perimeter alarm system. I have only just started my research so my knowledge is limited. How reliable are outdoor sensors? https://www.ultrasecuredirect.com/wireless-outdoor-alarms/solar-powered-wireless-perimeter-alarm/long-range-wireless-perimeter-alarm-900-metre-004-2590-p219.html I found these above, based on the description they sound like that would be suitable, they work in pairs so both have to be triggered to raise the alarm. Regards John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Chinky tat, but work quite well, brackets ain't great, programming is worse, unlikely to work all the time off solar in the UK as not enough charge to go over night its a chime for the drive rather than security... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MrHappy said: EXPENSIVE Chinky tat, but work quite well, brackets ain't great, programming is worse, unlikely to work all the time off solar in the UK as not enough charge to go over night its a chime for the drive rather than security... Fixed. P.S OP you also posted the same question to a 3 year old topic (that had degenerated into an argument between members) - I've deleted this, you've done the right thing starting a new one like this, please don't double post or bump old topics, thanks! Also it never hurts to introduce yourself in the appropriate section >>> http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/forum/14-introduce-yourself/ Edited July 24, 2017 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 14 hours ago, John Charnock said: Hi, I am looking for an outdoor perimeter alarm system. I have only just started my research so my knowledge is limited. How reliable are outdoor sensors? https://www.ultrasecuredirect.com/wireless-outdoor-alarms/solar-powered-wireless-perimeter-alarm/long-range-wireless-perimeter-alarm-900-metre-004-2590-p219.html I found these above, based on the description they sound like that would be suitable, they work in pairs so both have to be triggered to raise the alarm. Regards John Better off with an enforcer for diy at that price and add on as you can afford , wireless though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 it does look a bit carp, but the op was looking for a quality product. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Charnock Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 I am thinking Visonic are a better alternative http://www.visonic.com/Products/Wireless-Property-Protection/Outdoor-motion-sensor-tower-20am-mcw Any thoughts ? J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 14 minutes ago, John Charnock said: I am thinking Visonic are a better alternative http://www.visonic.com/Products/Wireless-Property-Protection/Outdoor-motion-sensor-tower-20am-mcw Any thoughts ? J Interesting detector , 8 quad pirs ..... Anyone try one yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I've used the takex but not wireless i hear good things about the tower i must admit Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Used the Octoquad things as temporary scaffold protection and some early warning type perimeter protection. They're OK but wireless is only one way, wired option available, good at picking up foxes... I normally would suggest active IR beams, it depends on what your protecting and the environment tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Charnock Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 It is for protecting areas of the garden that are vulnerable to access. My logic is to raise an alarm before intruders get an opportunity to start leveraging the patio doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, John Charnock said: It is for protecting areas of the garden that are vulnerable to access the solar tat is upto 1km in range, (radio, not the the beam pair) the visonic tat is a pir for back garden, the sort of size with neighbours with cats, balls ect.... I suspect either rigged up make a alarm will just piss you off until you disconnect it.... 2 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Charnock Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 Are there any reliable alternatives to protecting the perimeter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 optex beams & sensors... I don't like outside detection, 2 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Charnock Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 Are they similar technology to my original post ? https://www.ultrasecuredirect.com/wireless-outdoor-alarms/solar-powered-wireless-perimeter-alarm/long-range-wireless-perimeter-alarm-900-metre-004-2590-p219.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 25 minutes ago, MrHappy said: optex beams & sensors... I don't like outside detection, Ding. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 5 hours ago, John Charnock said: It is for protecting areas of the garden that are vulnerable to access. My logic is to raise an alarm before intruders get an opportunity to start leveraging the patio doors. Who were you expecting to call? I get the logic, but in order to be able to give advice,it would be sensible to understand the risk. Are you expecting to be targeted specifically? Could it just be that your concerned about opportunists? Have you already had someone enter your garden? I have done several projects of this nature, and my advice would be its expensive to do it properly, and if you dont do it properly its just a waste of money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Charnock Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 I am looking at a layered approach, starting with physically securing the perimeter the best I can and then working inwards. House alarm is the last line of defence, if that goes off they are in which is what I am hoping to avoid. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Charnock Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 BTW - I am not planning on doing this install myself, I am just acquiring knowledge so I know what to look for with a supplier. I have completed two online inquiry forms for two reputable local suppliers recently and neither of them has contacted me, the alarm business must be booming. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, John Charnock said: I have completed two online inquiry forms for two reputable local suppliers recently and neither of them has contacted me, Adjust watch by 20 yrs & welcome to the alarm trade, they've probably not printed you email out yet... 1 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 What security to you have already? I assume that you want this to be an early warning system while someone is in the property? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Charnock Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 Yes, I already have an internal alarm system. I am looking for a layered approach. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 35 minutes ago, John Charnock said: BTW - I am not planning on doing this install myself, I am just acquiring knowledge so I know what to look for with a supplier. I have completed two online inquiry forms for two reputable local suppliers recently and neither of them has contacted me, the alarm business must be booming. J If you mentioned what you wanted in the online enquiry then its unlikely that you will be contacted. Perimeter external security would not be popular amongst your average house basher, especially if you drop in words like solar powered, two words that would set any self respecting installer running in the opposite direction. There are various solutions out there, we installed a system at a house in Weighbridge recently for circa £45k using similar to this http://www.southwestmicrowave.com/products/buried-cable-detection-systems/ but I would guess its a bit out of your budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, John Charnock said: I am looking for a layered approach. That's fine, security is better in layers not many think about this. You will already have some layers I imagine; unless you leave your doors and windows open. Perimeter systems are generally suited to large detached properties where someone is in close proximity to site and immediately action. We have no idea on the property or what you expect from this perimeter protection system, or what the risk of the property and it's contents is. I also agree it's unlikely you would here back from an online enquiry for this type of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Charnock Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 Yes, I already have an internal alarm system. I am looking for a layered approach. J I may end up doing it myself (;-) CCTV is another option. Although I see that as a deterrent more than anything else. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Ah, it's that kind of South West. I got all excited then. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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