Muttsnutts Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Need some help if anyone is in the know. Just in the progress of moving alarm pir sensor and when connected it's now setting the alarm off, tamper circuit is ok. When the sensor is disconnect the system is fine. Only have one pir on the system and one door connector. I'm not sure if to do with these "jumpers" in the pir sensor is causing the problem. Not sure what they do or how they were connected, one is labeled memory and the other p count. Can anyone shed light on what jumper goes where ? And if they cover two wires horizontally or vertically ? TIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 looks right old.,... pulse count, no. of pulse of movement before the alarm relay opens memory - I assume a latch indication if multi sensors where on one circuit Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 it looks proper old? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 DT? Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, norman said: DT? late 80's c&k thing ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Terminals look c&k, also the rheostat top left for the mw Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aissecur Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) it looks a bit like an electronic line Micro X (Dual Tec) - but I cannot see the microwave part of the sensor Edited July 18, 2017 by aissecur Additional info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Looks like it's @ the back Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 id say its a pir with a range pot but id say vertical in answer to the OP Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 looks old and it looks a bit oxidised too, what state is the cable in? Link the tamper circuit at the detector end (dont used the detector terminals twist the wires together) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 41 minutes ago, james.wilson said: id say its a pir with a range pot I'm changing my answer... Visonic DT still late 80's The pic need rotating to the right, the jumper between pyro & leds is marked "m/w" Dt bit is the flat pcb type Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttsnutts Posted July 18, 2017 Author Share Posted July 18, 2017 Thanks all to the replies after leaving the system disconnected and re connecting after 24 hrs it seemed to have cured itself, I may still wire in a new pir sensor as lots of comments saying it old and could be past it's used by date. Just randomly put the jumpers in any position. Any recommendations on a new sensor not looking to spend the Earth. https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p34020?table=no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Muttsnutts said: Thanks all to the replies after leaving the system disconnected and re connecting after 24 hrs it seemed to have cured itself, I may still wire in a new pir sensor as lots of comments saying it old and could be past it's used by date. Just randomly put the jumpers in any position. Any recommendations on a new sensor not looking to spend the Earth. https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p34020?table=no post a pic of the full sensor... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttsnutts Posted July 18, 2017 Author Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 hour ago, MrHappy said: post a pic of the full sensor... It's back in the work shop as soon as I'm back in there tomorrow I will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 If this is an unheated workshop the 'off brand' PIR in the Toolstation link would be unsuitable. Im guessing not much of value in said workshop? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttsnutts Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, datadiffusion said: If this is an unheated workshop the 'off brand' PIR in the Toolstation link would be unsuitable. Im guessing not much of value in said workshop? Well the workshop has been extended/built which cost quite a bit so I've used existing old alarm which was out of use got back up and running with new battery etc (optima xm6)....and moved into new side of workshop. It has quite a lot of kit in and has a lot of value I was just trying not to overspend for the sake of it, so next idea for a sensor lol .I'm going to get a full pic of old sensor now. Edited July 19, 2017 by Muttsnutts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 37 minutes ago, Muttsnutts said: It has quite a lot of kit in and has a lot of value 37 minutes ago, Muttsnutts said: I was just trying not to overspend for the sake of it, This is the train of thought with a lot of people sadly, when you turn up and your doors are swinging in the wind and your nice, expensive kit has gone the savings will pale into insignificance. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aissecur Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 im still sticking with electronics line micro X (maybe early version) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Is that PCB in the case upside down? Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttsnutts Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 3 hours ago, norman said: Is that PCB in the case upside down? No I don't think so, and I think it is the micro x line from looking at PDF online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 How do you get the screw in when it's adjacent the ceiling? Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttsnutts Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 Remove the small screw on the pcb and pull board away and fix the the rear of the housing to the surface and re attatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, Muttsnutts said: No I don't think so, and I think it is the micro x line from looking at PDF online. So you know the model all sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttsnutts Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, al-yeti said: So you know the model all sorted Yep all for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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