kungfuman Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I recently replaced the dead battery in my Cooper Menvier 9651 alarm and whilst trying to clear the fault codes I stupidly reset all the commands to default and therefore now need to reprogram it from scratch. I have the installers guide and tried my best setting it up with this but cant seem to get it up and running. There's only one door contact and 5 PIR in the system which I have set as 'Final Exit (FE)' for the door and 'Normal Alarm (NA)' for the PIRs, the last two zones are set as 'Not Used'. But whenever I try to arm it, there's not a count down sound to exit and the unit just cycles through the zones and doesnt actually arm. I may resort in getting some professional in to set it up, but I was wondering if anyone can provide some guidance in case I have missed something. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 It thinks all the zones are 'open'. Have you blown a fuse? Are the PIR LEDs lighting? I assume all tampers are OK which is how you've managed to exit engineer mode, otherwise I was going to suggest checking Option 21 in the Eng menu... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I would say it's programmed for the incorrect wiring type myself. Are the sensors working have you blown a fuse, etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: I would say it's programmed for the incorrect wiring type myself. I thought that, but then it would refuse to exit eng though? OP - send us a picture of the alarm PCB as-wired, or, open up a PIR (any one) and show us the wiring. Edited May 19, 2017 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungfuman Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) Hi photos of the pcb wiring uploaded. The PIRs seem to be working as they light up when someone is in the rooms. Edited May 20, 2017 by kungfuman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 looks to me like its wired double pole and I assume that's default Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) OK; so it appears that it has been wired for 'global tamper'. Which is a shame, as this is a capable panel and doesn't need to be used in this 1980s way. But I digress. In engineer mode, what does option 21 say? Just go into engineer, press 2 1 and Enter (Tick) It will either say ' FSL' or 'CC + Tamp' or similar 3 minutes ago, james.wilson said: looks to me like its wired double pole and I assume that's default It was - it changed at some point hence a Cooper Bulletin about it catching out the sparkies who didn't get why they couldn't exit eng without tampers! However, either way I can't work out how the OP was able to exit eng mode (or, at least without a tamper alarm within seconds) if the wrong wiring was chosen... Edited May 20, 2017 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungfuman Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 Ok in engineer mode under command 21 it says: CC+ComA/T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 well id be looking to prove the panel, looping out the circuits. I suppose you could have a voltage on a leg. You didn't connect the battery the wrong way round did you? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Try linking the tamper circuit , close everything up and see if it starts to arm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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