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Hi,

A year an a half ago we bought our new home. It's an end of terrace at the end of a cul-de-sac. When we moved in we kind of figured out that it had previously been burgled because the French doors at the back had different handled and there are marks on it from it being jimmyed open. Anyway, when we moved in I got a Yale Easyfit smartphone alarm and me and my dad installed it. I figured that having an alarm would help deter anyone and they would burgled somewhere else.

Anyway, last night at 8pm the alarm beeped and I got a notification on my phone saying that a 'Jam detected' and then another notification 30 seconds later saying 'no jam'.

 

I didn't sleep a wink last night because I was concerned about getting robbed. So I've ordered a Patlock to go over the French door handles and am going to install CCTV this weekend (once I've looked into this further).

Are jams common or is someone trying to interfere with our alarm?

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To be honest its unlikely to be sabotage, Yale uses one way old tech radio and its more likely a taxi or some over form of radio interference.

Its all about what type of burglar you are likely to get, and the very fact that you have chosen to diy a Yale alarm tells me that you are unlikely to have high value contents, therefore the type of burglar you would get is likely to be more opportunist than than professional. Any burglar investing in technology to Jam wireless systems are looking for something worth getting caught for. 

 

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My advice would be not to rush into getting CCTV the same as you rushed into getting a (terrible quality) alarm.

 

Yale are regarded as 'tat' by professional installers, and the likelyhood is as much that the 'jamming' (this can be caused by any emission at the same frequency as the alarm uses, and the alarm obviously

has no idea if it is intentional or accidental) was a nearby heating controller, spurious emission, or even one of it's own devices. It's likely you may never know the actual cause.

 

In 'real life' burglars don't bother with electronic countermeasures (even Hatton Garden appears to be a 'good old fashioned blag') they just smash their way in and get what they want.

The fact you have a shiny Yale lid (although they are, IMHO, and most others, terrible) is half the battle in persuading them to try the next house along, although some less addled thugs may see Yale
and think 'probably doesn't work, probably isn't set' as compared to a clean, branded lid that looks as if it's been properly installed and looked after.

 

All CCTV will do is confirm that the door swinging open and no TV you see with your own eyes, isn't just a bad dream, along with some pictures of men in trakky bottoms with ski masks on who left 6 hours previously.

And cheap / crap / rush installed CCTV will just confirm the above in appalling resolution (or not at all if it's night!).

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So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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17 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

 

 

In 'real life' burglars don't bother with electronic countermeasures (even Hatton Garden appears to be a 'good old fashioned blag') they just smash their way in and get what they want.

 

Mostly they dont but I have experience some that have tried and failed, high tech is mostly used to steal cars than get around burglar alarms. Again they wouldnt spend £1k upwards to steal a Skoda though

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I actually thought that the code cracking part of the bypass *was* centralised by east-euro / Russian gangs who charge £££ 'per car' so that only high end stuff like Range Rovers were 'worth it'?

 

A bit like phone unlocking where the software is free, the hardware (if any) is cheap, but the codes are charged per go...

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So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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2 hours ago, datadiffusion said:

I actually thought that the code cracking part of the bypass *was* centralised by east-euro / Russian gangs who charge £££ 'per car' so that only high end stuff like Range Rovers were 'worth it'?

 

A bit like phone unlocking where the software is free, the hardware (if any) is cheap, but the codes are charged per go...

No idea, but I have noticed that range extenders are creeping in for theft with the keyless vehicles, like any kit buy it once and thieve multiple times, the more you take the cheaper the device becomes...

 

Image result for thieves use bag to steal car

Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.


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Ok, thanks for the reassurance. I did think about having a paid for alarm, but couldn't justify the monthly cost. I only wanted an alarm to help deter burglars and hope they would move on to the next house without an alarm. I think I'd still like to install cctv as another layer of security as it really has spooked me!

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CCTV provides a false sense of security to a lot of people, the market is flooded with rubbish due to this.

I wouldn't bother with CCTV from what you have said.

 

If you consider how it would benefit your security and you'll find it probably won't.

Are you going to stay up every night and watch the CCTV to react to them jimmying the patio doors?

Are you likely to be able to use the CCTV to identify any crims after the event? Probably not.

 

If you buy a professionally fitted alarm system you should expect to pay a one off fee for installation and a maintenance fee yearly.

This is the same as your Yale will have only a bit dearer, because it's a more secure system.

 

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As above, but if you feel it's a must for some reason, either get it fitted professionally (although that doesn't mean much these days) or buy a *decent* brand broken IP dome cam like an Axis or Panasonic and stick it up at the rear as a convincing looking deterrent.

So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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1 hour ago, james.wilson said:

If cctv isnt done right its a waste of money. If your not using decent stuff in the right places i wouldnt bother tbh

+1, and ime 90% isn't done/positioned right.

Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.


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