Bejomest Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I'm just in the process of purchasing the above combination and my question is whether I need to invest in a panel or not? I'm wondering if the comwifi can be installed without a panel, so that I can then use the iPhone app as my panel once installed and therefore not have to fork out for a panel at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyGuy Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Lol - Nope, the comms modules are just serial pass through devices to communicate with the control panel CPU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejomest Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 So the keypad app doesn't provide any additional functionality? Reading the information from the brochure highlighted below, I thought I may be able to save the investment in a physical keypad if I could set up comwifi without one and then use the app... Keypad App The Keypad App emulates a Premier Elite keypad interface. This allows end-users, master users and engineers the ability to remotely control the alarm system, as if physically standing in front of an actual keypad connected to the system. In addition, the Keypad App includes Texecom’s SmartKey interface, providing an intuitive and simple method of arming, part arming and disarming the system. Up to 3 programmable outputs can be triggered from the SmartKey interface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejomest Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 I must also clarify that as a 'newbie' my terminology is poor - I meant 'keypad' in my initial post. Apologies for any confusion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Yes, you need a keypad... However... unless you need all 48 zones, you might be better off with a http://www.texe.com/uk/uploads/PremierElite12-W_LIVE_web_6.pdf If you only use the keypad in an 'emergency' it can be hidden away just as you would with the 48 CCU. Edited April 26, 2017 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 That's if you can setup the comwifi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 LOL! Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 24 minutes ago, al-yeti said: That's if you can setup the comwifi Of course I can't either +1 come on guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Are you installing the kit yourself? This type of kit is designed to be installed by experienced engineers. If your not sure what you are buying, are you sure your competent to fit it? Just a word of caution, many a DIYer has come here and wasted months of time trying to install there system only to fail, get frustrated or end with a part working system. Minimum kit you will need is the Panel, Keypad and Comms Interface that is assuming you are reconnecting detection devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
installer_dale Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Technically you won't need a keypad but it's strongly recommended. And you'll need a usbcom to configure the panel to use the comwifi in the first place. But if you don't know that, I wouldn't recommend trying to setup a comwifi unit in the first place! They are a waste of space until (hopefully) new the ones come out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 This is an old post and AFAIK the original poster has never been back. But surely any Texe panel needs at least one keypad, doesn't it? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 14 hours ago, installer_dale said: Technically you won't need a keypad but it's strongly recommended. And you'll need a usbcom to configure the panel to use the comwifi in the first place. But if you don't know that, I wouldn't recommend trying to setup a comwifi unit in the first place! They are a waste of space until (hopefully) new the ones come out I certainly wouldn't be installing a panel without a keypad. If your router or inet is down how do you switch it off/on. Yes it's theoretically possible I suppose, but certainly not worth considering. I am sure you will find that Texecom wouldn't recommend that either, considering they recommend you use the keypad to setup the COMWifi in the first place. COMWifi units do what they say on the box, there not perfect but I prefer the COM-IP if I had to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 So a texe panel wouldn't complain with nil RKPs then? Wow. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
installer_dale Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Yes I know its very daft, I did say strongly recommended. As a diyer the cost to buy a usb cable is half way there to a keypad. I often use engineers keypad or wintex to configure until I get round to connecting keypads, especially if a live panel. But op asked and I needed a 5th post to apply for trade lol I'm sure some unique installations somewhere won't have one and might use keyswitches or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 There is a member on here who never fitted keypads, just prox readers iirc. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 IIRC it where a long ago time in TSI history... must be cira MMXIV & the poster Fattus Mattus made these claims ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Yup, didn't want customers to mess Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 9:57 PM, datadiffusion said: This is an old post and AFAIK the original poster has never been back. But surely any Texe panel needs at least one keypad, doesn't it? Yes On 6/1/2017 at 7:27 PM, installer_dale said: Technically you won't need a keypad but it's strongly recommended. And you'll need a usbcom to configure the panel to use the comwifi in the first place. But if you don't know that, I wouldn't recommend trying to setup a comwifi unit in the first place! They are a waste of space until (hopefully) new the ones come out Technically you dont need a monitor with a CCTV system if you are going to view it remotely using client software, but how are you going to program the remote client settings in the first place? The OP is asking if he has to buy one or not, of course he does he cant program in his ip setting or put it into engineers mode even without one! Mind you if he is asking the most basic question as does he need a RKP or not, I think my question would be does he need to start somewhere a little more basic, before he starts throwing piles of cash at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
installer_dale Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I've installed quite a few domestic cctv systems with no monitor where dvr is in the loft or cupboard and customer won't fork out for one as they're using apps. Admittedly I used my test monitor to program it which made the menu super tiny! I gave a tongue in cheek answer no if you really want you can get by without a keypad but as a minimum you need wintex to program it so need to buy a com lead, ironically annoying as the comwifi is a com device!!! I agree though asking that sort of question makes me think OP should be reevaluating what he's doing. I'd be more impressed getting the comwifi to integrate with the detectors without using a panel as per original post!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 8 hours ago, MrHappy said: IIRC it where a long ago time in TSI history... must be cira MMXIV & the poster Fattus Mattus made these claims ? I think it might actually have been *me* asking about it, at the time (10yrs + ago) I was considering Guardall (laughs...) They used to have a 'mini keypad' that only had 4 keys, a prox, and an LCD, I imagine you could enter a code 'car radio style' (up, down, enter) in an emergency but not do any progging without UDL. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 The fat knacker never fitted keypads either. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, norman said: The fat knacker never fitted keypads either. Data, don't stand for this.... 1 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 lol Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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