pritesh1311 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Hi All, I did read many post on the forum before starting this one so please excuse me im im repeating someone else question. Im in the middle of trialing a Texecom Odyssey bell box (X-BE) with a visonic powermax complete. I have connected the expander module and that works fine as I also tested a voice box. Now, when it comes to this siren im getting a strange tamper issue. When I open the lid to to release the tamper on the siren the powermax complete panel shows no trouble lights but still says Not ready to arm (z30 open) however I have the siren ringing (because the tamper is open). Weirdly when I close the tamper on the siren the trouble light flicks on and says Z30 is open. I have connected it just as Visonic have said and also enrolled Zone 30 as 24h Audible. connections on Siren to expander A: 12V+ >>>> SRN+ B: Bell >>>> EXT C: Tamp >>>> Z30 D: 0V >>>> GND S: STRB >>>> IN- I have also linked the Tamp with a 2.2K resistor to 0V in the siren aswell use an addition 2.2K resistor inline with z30 on the expander. Could someone tell me if im doing anything wrong? Any help would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrolhead Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 You are positioning yourself as a professional security company but you can't suss out an odyssey on a diy alarm on a paid job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Did you programme that zone? Is there no option to make the zone bell tamper ?, then you need to look at your resistor placement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pritesh1311 Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) @al-yeti Yes i programmed Zone 30 to 24h Audible.. Edited March 17, 2017 by pritesh1311 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Just connect a wire from gnd on the expander to gnd on the panel that will fix it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pritesh1311 Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 @petrolhead I have installed hundreds or powermax complete systems but never come across someone wanting a different style bell hence why I want to trial this before considering this any further. Also, its not a paid job as I have not agreed to anything yet but I was keen to understand how it would work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pritesh1311 Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, goncall said: Just connect a wire from gnd on the expander to gnd on the panel that will fix it.. Thank you @goncall, Will give this a try tomorrow and keep everyone updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, pritesh1311 said: @al-yeti Yes i programmed Zone 30 to 24h Audible.. That's bell tamper on visonic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrolhead Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Wire the tamper as you would any other deol fully supervised loop. confirm with a meter you are seeing 2k2 closed 4k4 open at the panel as per the document tech support sent you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Well you have the wiring diagram, looks pretty simple. Done this with other makes of bells before no problem. Is the bell going into hold off mode, look at the Ody LED's when your opening/closing the tamper. Measure the resistance of the tamper loop with lid in different states so you can see what the reading are at the panel. You may have to adjust your resistances to accommodate the bell. I wouldn't have thought it was a ground issue as I would assume they are at the same potential via the ribbon lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: I wouldn't have thought it was a ground issue as I would assume they are at the same potential via the ribbon lead? There's fitters and there's engineers .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Mind reading and remote diagnosis is part of my engineering skill, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: Mind reading and remote diagnosis is part of my engineering skill, yes. I just fix things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I generally try not to break them in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: I generally try not to break them in the first place. I just fit them then wait for the engineers to break them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, goncall said: I just fit them then wait for the engineers to break them... it must make your day Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Go ahead punk... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, james.wilson said: it must make your day I do like fitting it back to the wall,makes me feel like an engineer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 that's your ideal feel, what u really feeling? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, james.wilson said: that's your ideal feel, what u really feeling? I've got fingers in a couple of pies.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 steak and kidney & chicken and mushroom? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, james.wilson said: steak and kidney & chicken and mushroom? More Shaz and Tracey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 ? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pritesh1311 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 Morning all, Just a quick update. Ive managed to get the odyssey x-be wired to the powermax panel. The tamper works perfectly and the panel picks up the trouble so happy days. Thanks for all the feed back and support. much appriciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 What was the issue in the end then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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