Gabs Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 What do you prefer for ease of use, instillation and build quality, Veritas or Accenta G4 and what would you rather install? Also, has the Logic 6 been discontinued? I can't seem to find one of them, or a simple set reader anymore. Seems a bit weird, I would have thought that they were two very popular products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Logic well discontinued. I wouldn't bother fitting either any more but would choose Veritas out of your options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 What he said...^^ Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I don't think the 6 took off. After all, it was essentially a bodge on top of an existing, ageing panel. Our local TLC Direct still had stock until last year IIRC. Must have been an arse to prog. http://www.responseelectronics.com/downloads/1364919803Logic_Six_Install.pdf Not an entirely stupid idea though - and not entirely unlike Guardall's prox arming station. Although with that at least there was an engineer keypad and full UDL. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabs Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 31 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: Logic well discontinued. I wouldn't bother fitting either any more but would choose Veritas out of your options. Strange, I didn't notice, I think ADE or Honeywell should add a Prox feature to the Accenta keypads. Ah, that is what I thought. I also think that the Veritas LCD keypad is better looking than the LCD Accenta keypad. 5 minutes ago, datadiffusion said: I don't think the 6 took off. After all, it was essentially a bodge on top of an existing, ageing panel. Our local TLC Direct still had stock until last year IIRC. Must have been an **** to prog. http://www.responseelectronics.com/downloads/1364919803Logic_Six_Install.pdf Not an entirely stupid idea though - and not entirely unlike Guardall's prox arming station. Although with that at least there was an engineer keypad and full UDL. Ah, do you mean the Optima, or Logic 4 as the ageing panel it took over? Yeah, I can see how hard these must be to program. I always thought that they'd be good for people who suffered memory loss, or weren't able to use a keypad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Or you could just install virtually any other system with a prox keypad! Texe at least allows you to remove virtually everything from a users menu so with the 'right' (or wrong) fob you can do nothing other than autoset and unset, just like the Logic 6. Another feature that was copied from the Menvier / Scantronic EN Platform range I believe, same team wasn't it? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufjax Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 The veritas would be our choice. It's what we / our sparks fit in the new builds, it's normally what the builder specs with a white bell cover.... No free advertising there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabs Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, datadiffusion said: Or you could just install virtually any other system with a prox keypad! Texe at least allows you to remove virtually everything from a users menu so with the 'right' (or wrong) fob you can do nothing other than autoset and unset, just like the Logic 6. Another feature that was copied from the Menvier / Scantronic EN Platform range I believe, same team wasn't it? Ha, I guess. I'd probably end up going for a Castle Care Tech panel in my home, when I'm older. So, ADE copied from Scantronic? Naughty of them. Do Menvier still make wired panels? 6 minutes ago, dufjax said: The veritas would be our choice. It's what we / our sparks fit in the new builds, it's normally what the builder specs with a white bell cover.... No free advertising there. That's is a shame, I would insist to have my logo put on a bell box, if I installed. Always good to get some free Advertising in! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 With so many systems why bother with any of those , Veritas maybe best but it's in the dark ages now , and fitted by mostly sparkes as above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabs Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, al-yeti said: With so many systems why bother with any of those , Veritas maybe best but it's in the dark ages now , and fitted by mostly sparkes as above If you could choose from any in the world, what would you choose to install? Panel, PIRs and bell box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Galaxy with Hkc wireless and mixture of bells if it could work together with Hkc software with a few mods , And of course some texecom firmware updates should do the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Gabs said: If you could choose from any in the world, what would you choose to install? Panel, PIRs and bell box? anything but fire & security system.... 2 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Vajazzle diamante's? 1 Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabs Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 50 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Galaxy with Hkc wireless and mixture of bells if it could work together with Hkc software with a few mods , And of course some texecom firmware updates should do the trick HKC sound good. I haven't herd much about them or seen many of their products. I'd have an Elmdene Rapier, or a box preferably with a bell in in, as it is more distinctive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, norman said: Vajazzle diamante's? nah, like alarms I'll be working too close to c#nts everyday 3 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I'll line em up... 2 Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrolhead Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) For simplicity of setting i like euro mini/46 programmed for intelligent set. Swip the tag and go to bed, system realises you haven't opened a final exit and automatically part sets. If you leave via a final exit system automatically full sets. Pensioners love it. shame they did away with that functionality on the app versions. Jim, if you are reading why did they take that feature out? Customers love it. Edited February 21, 2017 by petrolhead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I agree brilliant idea I wonder who came up with it? 1 Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 How does that work if you have a landing PIR for example, though? 1 Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyGuy Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Landing zone isn't included in part/night set. The dimension and flex have this too. No use if you have someone who works on nightshift and you have to part set and leave while they are in bed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Yes, obviously not included at night as per a manual part set but... how does it decide the difference between that and a full set exit route stray / straggler? Does it wait until a door is opened before announcing activity in a part-set omitted zone? 1 Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 10 hours ago, james.wilson said: I agree brilliant idea I wonder who came up with it? Appretice of the yr 1990 odd ? 1 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrolhead Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 3 hours ago, datadiffusion said: Yes, obviously not included at night as per a manual part set but... how does it decide the difference between that and a full set exit route stray / straggler? Does it wait until a door is opened before announcing activity in a part-set omitted zone? When you start an intelligent set it starts off as a part set so omits the landing and anything on an entry route bu still monitors for deviation on the zones included in B, then if you open a final exit door before the B exit timer elapses then it changes to an A full set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 3 hours ago, petrolhead said: When you start an intelligent set it starts off as a part set so omits the landing and anything on an entry route bu still monitors for deviation on the zones included in B, then if you open a final exit door before the B exit timer elapses then it changes to an A full set. So what happens if you want to part set and leave by the front door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 A boxing glove on a stick reminds you who's boss Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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