whistle Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Great business model selling SD1s and GSM tat... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy™ Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 i install what the customer wants, monitored, 'tat' or bells only 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 You'd be better installing something that's not tat or likely to cause you revisits and generates recurring revenue. Customers have no idea what they want. 3 Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy™ Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 admittedly i dont install / maintain that many compared to some of you, but of all those i have installed ive never had any problems or been called back to any faults with them. maybe im just lucky, which is rare for me. as much as id rather install a monitored alarm for someone, not everyone wants one and sometimes its a basic dialler that gets fitted. or bells only customers may not always have an idea what they want but id rather give them choices rather than telling what they are having 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul44 Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 57 minutes ago, norman said: You'd be better installing something that's not tat or likely to cause you revisits and generates recurring revenue. Customers have no idea what they want. Exactly Norman, hence why I am asking the question on a professional security forum. Haven't fitted many myself but thought I would seek advice. Nothing worse than fitting ***** that you keep getting called back for. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul44 Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 hours ago, whistle said: Great business model selling SD1s and GSM tat... What's wrong with a sd1. Alarm activates, sd1 dials out customer informed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 no polling or path integrity checking, no audit trail leaving installer open to failure to perform claims on insurance etc etc Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy™ Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 which is why i recommend monitored and explain the differences between the various options to the customer and let them make a decision on what they want fitted (after all, its their property). all the extras are nice to have but cost more which is sometimes above what the customer is willing to spend 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 from me experience domestics think monthly fees are a rip off (apart from sky, amazon etc) and that a voice dialler is a grade 4 comms device for free Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistle Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Ha ha agreed, i was quoting a large large barn conversion in the middle of the Lancashire countryside last week. I was explaining that grade 4 signalling was required when the guy measuring up for a new kitchen pipes up. "I would get one of those things that phones you mobile if the alarm goes off, that's what we have on our workshop. These monitored alarms are just a rip off" feckin pr!ck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy™ Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 i would have started telling him to go to wickes or B&Q for his kitchen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 10 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said: Why is everyone scared to fit quality and charge for it. You say overpriced, I say a quality product that does it's job well and had no issues. Compare that against hassle you will get from the cheaper end of the market and it makes sense. It is a decent unit, but it is overpriced compared to some which offer exactly the same features, like the TELL. The TELL units are not Chinese tat, they are very well made, but about half the price. I'm certainly not scared to fit decent kit but paying double only means you probably have less margin if you want to actually get the sale. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 37 minutes ago, james.wilson said: no polling or path integrity checking, no audit trail leaving installer open to failure to perform claims on insurance etc etc I'd say that would be easily sorted with a half decent T+Cs clause re. 'self monitored' systems, customer is in charge of phone numbers etc... I've only ever fitted 3 of the TELL units but made it really clear the ball was in the customers court, recommended test messages to be turned on, got them to sign for it etc... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Around here 860k for 5 ded detached town house is alot of money, She'd wanted some new sockets in the kitchen & the electrics have been condemned, 2 core in conduit under the kitchen floor nothing earthed, Told its 200k project of tarting the place up, plaster chopped off down stairs floors being replace up stairs, not sure whether she want the cctv (project manager has instructed me to wire regardless) alarm is part rewired, galaxy 16 is likely to be replaced if she wants a RKP with a fancy finsh... ceiling mounted access points, a few speakers & some cables have appeared... told 10k charged for the work (3 days labour) Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul44 Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 **** me.... it s a old dear with bugger all cash, who just wants something to call someone if the alarm goes off. Maybe it would make great business sense to scare the **** out of her and sign her and get her to sign up to a grade 4 monitored dual path system with monitored cctv ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistle Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, paul44 said: **** me.... it s a old dear with bugger all cash, who just wants something to call someone if the alarm goes off. Maybe it would make great business sense to scare the **** out of her and sign her and get her to sign up to a grade 4 monitored dual path system with monitored cctv ? Just make sure you tie her into a 3 year contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul44 Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, whistle said: Just make sure you tie her into a 3 year contract. lol I probably could..... I'm just not a heartless c*** Edited February 11, 2017 by datadiffusion Please don't try and trick the BWF, stars are fine :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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