richduc Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Hi there! I was hoping for some advice - my house was burgled recently. Obviously I hadn't set my alarm, an inherited Everest wireless system which is a rebranded abacus 6/14 COM. I am now using it all the time! However, one thing stolen was the remote control fob (mistaken as car fob, presumably). How do I ensure that the fob can't be used, i.e. can I remove it from the system? I have access to the engineering code but can't find any info on the fob anywhere. Everest aren't interested in responding, I have asked about this but they haven't got back to me. Any advice appreciated (wife stressed!)... Thanks for any input. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 It been many yrs since I touched one... Think the fobs are on the system as a zone, delete it. The radio stuff was documented its own manual, You'd be best of with co. with expirance of the product or rip the whole thing out & replace Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richduc Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 ok thought it might be...I will go through the zones...I have only looked at zone one to try omitting PIRs before I realised I could do a perimeter set....shall I just try entering different zones....2....3 etc...will it be obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I am fairly certain there wasnt a fob for the 6/14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, richduc said: will it be obvious? no, Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richduc Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Lol to Mr Happy, Peter there was defo a fob, looked like a car alarm fob from way back, used it to set the alarm when going on holiday...took a large watch style battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, PeterJames said: I am fairly certain there wasnt a fob for the 6/14 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just now, richduc said: Lol to Mr Happy, Peter there was defo a fob, looked like a car alarm fob from way back, used it to set the alarm when going on holiday...took a large watch style battery. Then it would be an after market fob, there will be a separate receiver wired into the keyswitch input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, richduc said: Lol to Mr Happy, Peter there was defo a fob, looked like a car alarm fob from way back, used it to set the alarm when going on holiday...took a large watch style battery. I am sure there was no fob aswell, it was third party da systems didn't make them , might have been an add on a company done Just now, al-yeti said: I am sure there was no fob aswell, it was third party da systems didn't make them , might have been an add on a company done 1 minute ago, MrHappy said: Yep after market add on, they never had them in the factory while I made the tea I got to see the gear and dreamt of doing alarms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 6/14r used DS radio equipment, the recvier was metal boxed & did 32 (IIRC) device which could be split into a & b circuits Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just now, MrHappy said: 6/14r used DS radio equipment, the recvier was metal boxed & did 32 (IIRC) device which could be split into a & b circuits There you go lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 pir used 2 x cr123 the sanyo ones lasted many yrs... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richduc Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 yes Mr Happy that's the one! Yes I replaced 4no. CR123's to 2no of the PIR's which were causing a fault (I have never replaced any batteries in the 7 years here). Any instructions anyone would like to hazard a guess on how to remove the fob from the system>..???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, richduc said: yes Mr Happy that's the one! Yes I replaced 4no. CR123's to 2no of the PIR's which were causing a fault (I have never replaced any batteries in the 7 years here). Any instructions anyone would like to hazard a guess on how to remove the fob from the system>..???? It cannot be de programmed as it was an aftermarket add on just de wire the receiver from the keyswitch input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richduc Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 ah ok thanks, I will try this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, PeterJames said: It cannot be de programmed as it was an aftermarket add on just de wire the receiver from the keyswitch input. the radio expander was on its own bus, devices are progammed on/ off by the keypad Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richduc Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 ok so can it or can't it..i have lost the thread of this thread!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, richduc said: ok so can it or can't it..i have lost the thread of this thread!!!! can, Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richduc Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 ok great I will have a play with the settings in engineer mde. Thanks to everyone for the quick responses! Much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 on a serious note its a ksw not a native from something that old? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I am 99% sure its not programmable I got a point on a NSI inspection in 2010 because you could still disarm the system with the code. We had to fit a relay to the open and close output to down power the keypad whilst set to get around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 9 hours ago, james.wilson said: on a serious note its a ksw not a native from something that old? apart from a data connection theres no other wiring from radio expander to controls, radio zones are no. 11 to 88, it was class 5 radio system Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, PeterJames said: I am 99% sure its not programmable I got a point on a NSI inspection in 2010 because you could still disarm the system with the code. We had to fit a relay to the open and close output to down power the keypad whilst set to get around it. That would have caused a tamper, surely?? 17 minutes ago, MrHappy said: apart from a data connection theres no other wiring from radio expander to controls, radio zones are no. 11 to 88, it was class 5 radio system I'm guessing this is kit from under Bosch ownership, or was it very late DA designed kit that attracted Bosch in the first place? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, datadiffusion said: That would have caused a tamper, surely?? It was how Da instructed us to get around the problem, it may not have been power it may have been data or something it was 7 years ago now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 All scrap now , except you find a good condition one for a garage or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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