Normski Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Hi all and thanks for the forum. I have just fitted an Optima compact (model 8EP396A) together with a new Reson8 bell box and all has gone well, except for the one feature I really need. I am trying to set zones 2 & 3 (PIRs) with zone omit ( wandering dog) during night time occupancy. I have followed the engineers manual to the letter ( which may be a mistake) and I believe that zones 2 & 3 are omitted in Program 2. However when I follow the instructions to part set the alarm and press the P key after the user code, the exit tone does not stop and the alarm carries on with an all zones set as if we were leaving the house unoccupied. I have spend the best part of a day trying to find fault with my programming and have even slept on it and tried again fresh. Any suggestions would be gratefully received as I am now completely frustrated by this. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 Just for clarity. I believe that I have correctly programmed zones 2 & 3 as zone omit in Program 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 I've resolved the issue myself, so for the sake of anyone else having a similar problem, I'm posting the solution. I had correctly programmed the zones to be selected for omitting. The problem is the manual description ( as I half suspected) for the part setting of the system. The manual states to press button "P" after entering your code. You should actually press the "C" button (which looks like an eye, or SEE button). This will then stop the bleeping and illuminate the zones to omit. Simply switch out the LED's that you have Programmed to be allowable for omitting and after that press the button which looks like a large "Tick" to continue the alarm setting. Job done, no thanks to Honeywell for the technical authoring on the documentation. There may well be other errors on sections I did not require, so be aware if things don't go as the manual states that it should. Hope this helps any others who may "follow in my footsteps". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 have you actually enabled the program 2? what your doing is not part setting but omitting the circuits Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Normski said: I've resolved the issue myself, so for the sake of anyone else having a similar problem, I'm posting the solution. I had correctly programmed the zones to be selected for omitting. The problem is the manual description ( as I half suspected) for the part setting of the system. The manual states to press button "P" after entering your code. You should actually press the "C" button (which looks like an eye, or SEE button). This will then stop the bleeping and illuminate the zones to omit. Simply switch out the LED's that you have Programmed to be allowable for omitting and after that press the button which looks like a large "Tick" to continue the alarm setting. Job done, no thanks to Honeywell for the technical authoring on the documentation. There may well be other errors on sections I did not require, so be aware if things don't go as the manual states that it should. Hope this helps any others who may "follow in my footsteps". I found manuals for these panels problematic to , but alarm monkeys seem to get it done without them weird eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 James, Yes I enabled Program 2 to have 2 zones omitted and Program 3 to have all 4 PIR zones omitted ( very rare occasion of house overload !). They were set up in engineer mode, but when in user mode following the part set instructions selecting a "Program" did not silence the alarm bleeping ( first indication of a problem). The system just didn't recognise their existence. I'm unsure of the difference between part set and omitting zones, since the manual for part set states that it achieves it by removing zones that are not required to be set for whatever reason. Program 1 is a full all zone set for a total house empty period. Hope that makes sense James? Al-yeti, I too have experienced manual misinformation on other alarm systems. I was confident that I had followed the steps as advised. A online manual of a old very forerunner of the Gen 4 gave me a clue that the instructions were wrong. The "C" (Eye) used to be simply labelled "Omit" . A big clue and whilst I acknowledge that manufacturers can completely rehash things, many changes can be cosmetic and trendy. The original basics often underpin modern technology and trends. Cars are great example of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 yes but by default they are disabled so even if you set the zones etc it won't work to you set it to timed etc rather than disabled Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrick_001 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I was about to tell you how to program the part-set... but the alarm monkey bit made me decide otherwise Good luck reading the manual, reading lessons might help it become less 'problematic'. Monkey Quote CCTV Intruder Access Control Tony Hughes, Proprietor, TRADE MEMBER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 Hi Mavrick, The "monkey" but was not my comment , so I would welcome your advice on the part set programming. I read and reread the instructions until I could quote them off by heart but that bit of it would just not work for me. Cheers. normski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrick_001 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Haha I'll see if I can pm you now you've got a posts, if you know what zone numbers you want to program off it's fairly straightforward, pm you Quote CCTV Intruder Access Control Tony Hughes, Proprietor, TRADE MEMBER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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