james.wilson Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 FYI statements from BSI and BSIA http://us11.campaign-archive2.com/?u=e431c483321f841b0e8b7feea&id=34e682a6fa&e=9e83515002 http://www.bsia.co.uk/LatestNews/tabid/87/ctl/NewsItem/mid/431/Id/181/Default.aspx?returnurl=%2fdefault.aspx Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alarmcom Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 These statements are surely at odds: BSI’s ambition is that the UK should continue to participate in the European Standardization System as a full member of CEN, CENELEC and ETSI. We consider that this is a likely outcome of the forthcoming negotiations between the UK and the EU. I will certainly do my best in the coming months to deliver this ambition, in the interests of UK industry, government and society. Were coming out, the majority system has spoken. Screw the EU standards which even after 10 years + of people trying to get square pegs in round holes the wise concede don't work as a STANDARD. Its not so difficult to move forward without EU bureaucracy. My draft solution would be to start again with a G1 = DIY, G2= pro system (similar to 4737) that starts at a higher level than the G2 currently in place but would encompasses greater levels of protection in line with the risk. eg. anti mask in defined areas and single/dual path and higher poling rates all based on risk. Simple is workable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 1, 2016 Author Share Posted July 1, 2016 But the manufacturers view will be different they wont want to develop product to different standards ie 4737 and 50131 etc 1 Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alarmcom Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 14 minutes ago, james.wilson said: But the manufacturers view will be different they wont want to develop product to different standards ie 4737 and 50131 etc Most already do. Its normally in the programming options. My suggestion is even easier for manufacturers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 1, 2016 Author Share Posted July 1, 2016 I know. I will have to see how the debate goes at the next meeting. It hasn't really been discussed other than informally etc Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Come on if manufacturer changes its direction all the trade-diy will get even more confused Confusing stuff from you remain lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alarmcom Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 1 minute ago, james.wilson said: I know. I will have to see how the debate goes at the next meeting. It hasn't really been discussed other than informally etc the danger with your meeting is that the attendees will have their own agenda which may not neccaseraly represent the interests of the majority of this industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I think the security industry needs to vote Quote UK participation in the development and maintenance of voluntary industry standards by CEN and CENELEC for use across the European single market is an essential element of the UK’s relationship with our European partners. The CEN and CENELEC single standard model, with identical adoption of European standards across 33 countries and the withdrawal of conflicting national standards, facilitates market access and simplifies the market structure across Europe. Load of **** I think you should have a choice and no have it pushed on you by the BSIA Quote www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 1, 2016 Author Share Posted July 1, 2016 no maybe not but nsi etc have a voice at bsi but not bsia. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 So what is wrong with the standards we have exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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