Nieldmail Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Hi I need some advice please. Installed this wireless alarm but struggled to get the PIRs working. In the end I had to change the mode from auto to always awake to get them to work when the alarm was set. Worked fine for walk test. Have I missed something obvious?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simlec Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) When in auto mode the detectors go to sleep for 3-15 min after detection, however the system is set. for best results put them in hybrid mode, asleep when not needed and awake when set. Edited May 22, 2016 by Simlec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieldmail Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Hi Simlec thanks for that. There are also vib sensors that set their mode to always awake, should these be set to hybrid as well?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simlec Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 You can leave them on always awake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieldmail Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 just a quick question why is there nothing about these settings in the 146 page instruction manual. VERY frustrating!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isecurity Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Quads/PIR's should be Auto, Dualtecs hybrid, Impaq Shock/contact Always awake. PIR's become active after 3-4 mins, this is to allow the wake poll signal to be seen, saves battery life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieldmail Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Hi isecurity on the auto setting the PIRs didn't seem to "wake" at all. I seemed to wait a long time but may have got impatient/frustrated. Will try on auto again before trying hybrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isecurity Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 sometimes it feels like ages i know, but they will Arm, best off waiting 10 Mins as they will all arm at different times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simlec Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 36 minutes ago, isecurity said: Quads/PIR's should be Auto, Dualtecs hybrid, Impaq Shock/contact Always awake. PIR's become active after 3-4 mins, this is to allow the wake poll signal to be seen, saves battery life. 3-4 min is wrong. Just put all your PIRs into hybrid, this also saves the most battery life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simlec Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 23 minutes ago, Nieldmail said: Hi isecurity on the auto setting the PIRs didn't seem to "wake" at all. I seemed to wait a long time but may have got impatient/frustrated. Will try on auto again before trying hybrid. As i said the time is between 3-15min before the detector becomes active again in auto mode. When I tested, i was getting average 7min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieldmail Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Wow 7 mins without protection seems a bit long. Sounds like hybrid is the best option!! sorry didn't mean to start such a heated discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isecurity Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 looks like we've both learned something Nieldmail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simlec Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Also don't forget the standard wireless PIR's have a slow pickup response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 sounds great kit Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieldmail Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Ye great kit for a brand new home, no cables!! Easy install bit tricky on the programming when it's only a domestic situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieldmail Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 24 minutes ago, Simlec said: Also don't forget the standard wireless PIR's have a slow pickup response. These are pet wireless detectors and I've set them on pulse count 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isecurity Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I would change that to pulse count 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieldmail Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 13 minutes ago, isecurity said: I would change that to pulse count 2 May do now I'm changing the mode setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9651 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I've just had to UDL our "problem site" again. Its been fine for 6 months.... but just taken a call of Alerts displaying. Radio jam is present and wont clear - every sensor jammed out.. Had a couple of low batteries over the last few days according to log, so presume a faulty device jamming the rest. 50+ ricochet zones. Brilliant. Wireless toss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMealing Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 1 hour ago, 9651 said: I've just had to UDL our "problem site" again. Its been fine for 6 months.... but just taken a call of Alerts displaying. Radio jam is present and wont clear - every sensor jammed out.. Had a couple of low batteries over the last few days according to log, so presume a faulty device jamming the rest. 50+ ricochet zones. Brilliant. Wireless toss. Any reason the customer did not alert you to the low battery warnings? Also be interested if changing all the batteries solves the issue. I had a similar experience on my own house alarm, nothing to do with batteries in the end, it was a new mobile phone mast being installed close to the house, and commissioned, obviously overpowered, cleared after a couple of hours not had a problem since. I have a modified PIR I can use to detect jamming, nothing at the back of the house, in constant jam at the front. Quote amealing@texe.com Head of Industry Affairs Visit Our Website Texecom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isecurity Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 9 hours ago, AdrianMealing said: Any reason the customer did not alert you to the low battery warnings? Also be interested if changing all the batteries solves the issue. I had a similar experience on my own house alarm, nothing to do with batteries in the end, it was a new mobile phone mast being installed close to the house, and commissioned, obviously overpowered, cleared after a couple of hours not had a problem since. I have a modified PIR I can use to detect jamming, nothing at the back of the house, in constant jam at the front. I also have a problem site, that keeps rearing it head up. changed expander, changed all batts. Whats the model PIR you have and how do i get one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHeardofThat1 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 13 hours ago, Simlec said: As i said the time is between 3-15min before the detector becomes active again in auto mode. When I tested, i was getting average 7min. Do you know why are PIRs set to auto by default? Now reading this I can't see any reason to ever have anything on Auto. On hybrid, does the panel arm the device as soon as the system is set? With no down time while set? I assume on auto, once it's had its down time it's armed, ready for instant trigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I have always used Auto for PIR's and Hybrid for DT's that's what has always been recommended and never had issues. The newer panels automagically program the correct wireless mode on enrolment, so hard to get wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMealing Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 8 hours ago, isecurity said: I also have a problem site, that keeps rearing it head up. changed expander, changed all batts. Whats the model PIR you have and how do i get one? Contact tech support, tell them i sent you and ask for a jam detector, not available to purchase but easy to use on a site with potential jamming issues. The LED stays on if jamming is detected. Goes off when there is no jamming. Quote amealing@texe.com Head of Industry Affairs Visit Our Website Texecom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isecurity Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 28 minutes ago, AdrianMealing said: Contact tech support, tell them i sent you and ask for a jam detector, not available to purchase but easy to use on a site with potential jamming issues. The LED stays on if jamming is detected. Goes off when there is no jamming. Thanks Adrian, ill enquire tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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