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#1 bm_99

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 11:26 AM

Hey people = I've already got a hp officejet but need to know if I wanted to print something in order to give copies to customers what paper would I need.

No point printing twice as I also need to write on it aswell, you all know what i mean lol

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#2 Rulland

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 12:28 PM

As far as I am aware the only way to get more than one 'copy' in a single pass is by using an 'impact' printer ie dot matrix or daisy ball type using special paper (has carbon type stuff already in it).
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 12:56 PM

you could buy NCR paper sheets & run though you bubble jet printer,

however I expect its cheaper & less hassle to go an online printer,

http://www.cheapncrforms.co.uk/

I think someone else on the forum recommended to me & I was pleased with the product
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 10:43 PM

View PostRulland, on 02 January 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

As far as I am aware the only way to get more than one 'copy' in a single pass is by using an 'impact' printer ie dot matrix or daisy ball type using special paper (has carbon type stuff already in it).

not really sure i want to change the printer lol

View PostMrHappy, on 02 January 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

you could buy NCR paper sheets & run though you bubble jet printer,

however I expect its cheaper & less hassle to go an online printer,

http://www.cheapncrforms.co.uk/

I think someone else on the forum recommended to me & I was pleased with the product

bubble jet meaning the same as my officejet? and could any NCR paper sheets work?

Also how do the rest of you lot print double copies or copies for customers that you can also write on?

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 11:01 PM

yes officejet isjust HP's name for a bubble jet printer,

I don't print any NCR forms at work,

However NCR sets can be bought of ebay, why not run some though your printer & report back to forum what the results are?
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 11:39 PM

View PostMrHappy, on 02 January 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

yes officejet isjust HP's name for a bubble jet printer,

I don't print any NCR forms at work,

However NCR sets can be bought of ebay, why not run some though your printer & report back to forum what the results are?

no problem, so NCR is just a type of paper to buy like carbon? and perhaps be bought from any office type of store?

And if my thinkin is correct lol, then a single piece of ncr would go below a normal paper when printing and also when writing and or signing? so the ink goes through 2 pieces of paper?

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 12:02 AM

I don't think you'll get NCR at staples, either online or a printers paper supplies typr of place

I think you' have to print a top then bottom copy, when you put both together a ballpoint pen or type writer will transfer from top to bottom paper
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 07:29 AM

We pay around 80-100 for 10 pads of 50 job sheets on NCR paper - you get a pink copy and a white copy, customer keeps the pink copy, white copy (with the original signature) is used to update alarm master, invoice then gets scanned and shredded.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 11:34 AM

View Postbm_99, on 02 January 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:


no problem, so NCR is just a type of paper to buy like carbon? and perhaps be bought from any office type of store?


NCR means No Carbon Required, the paper is chemically treated instead.
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 01:20 PM

We got ours from ebay - 3 set ones (White top, Yellow middle, red bottom). Its got perferations along the long edge, and we use a colour laser to print on our job sheet, which we designed ourselves.

Much cheaper to do it this way than use a printing company - off the top of my head, we paid £15 for 250 sets.

Means you can alter job sheets as and when needed too - with one client with several outlets and the same cctv kit throughout the estate, we've created one set of paperwork for the sites to do standard services with - so nobody misses any bits of the job.

One copy gets left with the client, one for the installer to keep in their job file, and one for accounts. That way, everyone knows whats going on with a quote or job, and what's been done to a system.

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:47 PM

View Postemsgeorge, on 03 January 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

We got ours from ebay - 3 set ones (White top, Yellow middle, red bottom). Its got perferations along the long edge, and we use a colour laser to print on our job sheet, which we designed ourselves.

Much cheaper to do it this way than use a printing company - off the top of my head, we paid £15 for 250 sets.

Means you can alter job sheets as and when needed too - with one client with several outlets and the same cctv kit throughout the estate, we've created one set of paperwork for the sites to do standard services with - so nobody misses any bits of the job.

One copy gets left with the client, one for the installer to keep in their job file, and one for accounts. That way, everyone knows whats going on with a quote or job, and what's been done to a system.

George

Would a normal bubblejet/ officejet printer also do the same job as your laser one?

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 06:33 PM

George. So if Ive got this right, all 3 sheets go through the laser as one.?

Got a link for fleabay?

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 04:06 PM

if you put all 3 sheets through at once it will only print on the top copy. That may suffice but probably not. As mentioned above you need an impact printer. We used a 3 sheet system and printed them on a dot matrix. But they used to be dirt cheap but now they are a bit dearer cos this is the only thing they are any good for now.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 06:44 PM

View PostRFS, on 03 January 2012 - 07:29 AM, said:

We pay around 80-100 for 10 pads of 50 job sheets on NCR paper - you get a pink copy and a white copy, customer keeps the pink copy, white copy (with the original signature) is used to update alarm master, invoice then gets scanned and shredded.
we have three, one in the office, one for customer and one stays in the book incase any forms are lost. pay about £100 -130 for 20 books of 50, bound and perforated. Can't understand why anyone would print their own.

Edited by alterEGO, 28 January 2012 - 06:48 PM.


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Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:19 PM

we do but i want as much detail from the db as possible, post history, outstanding actions etc.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 07:35 PM

We by plain NCR paper i think its about £15 for a set of 250. White top and Yellow back. The box is allready alternated with the colours. So i can just load the printer up and print. Have to print 2 copies of sheets but it works well.

Its good because i am always tweaking our job sheets to make them better. I hadnt though about doing different job sheets for different jobs like with more info and such. The jobsheets are generated through our CASH system so all the info the engineers need gets printed straight onto the job sheet.

I just have to book the job through the CASH system click print then change the copies to 2 and click ok. The template is allready setup and will mailmerge the relevant information onto the sheet.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:23 PM

U lot must not do many callouts lol Printing dockets would be a nightmare for us. what do u do out of hours or when calls come in throughout the day?

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:43 PM

office booked calls (ie in hours) all have a printed sheet. We use plain pre printed dockets for out of hours.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:33 PM

View Postjameswilson, on 01 February 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

office booked calls (ie in hours) all have a printed sheet. We use plain pre printed dockets for out of hours.
so how do u get your printed sheet to the engineer 15 miles away from the office but only a mile or two from the fault thats just come in?

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:49 PM

We use plain jobsheets (with out the mail merge data, address site name etc) for callouts and such the engineers keep them on there vans and fill them in.




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