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Ade Optima Compact Gen4 Intruder Panel, Transformer Keeps Burning Out?


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#1 phil_ad

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 03:55 PM

Installed this alarm in my grandparents house when they first moved in. Everything was fine for first few months, then the transformer burnt out. Replaced it with a new one, and sure enough, few months later same happened. On third panel now and its happened again! Has anyone had this same trouble or know what the problem could be? The fuse inside the fuse spur doesn't blow and neither does the fuse inside the panel it self.. Luckily I know the lad down the wholesalers so its not costing us to replace the panel every time. The panel doesn't really get used that much only use when they are out most the day, so its not like its getting over used either.

Any suggestions?

#2 RFS

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 04:00 PM

Try a decent panel instead?

and...

is the incoming side checking out OK when you test it?

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 04:05 PM

Incoming side is fine, 240v up to the transformer, and then out of the transformer, nothing. First thing I check when it happens to make sure its nothing to do with the incoming mains.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 04:08 PM

View Postphil_ad, on 30 August 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

Incoming side is fine, 240v up to the transformer,

thats not what I said..

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 04:12 PM

well what do you mean by incoming side?

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 04:23 PM

View Postphil_ad, on 30 August 2011 - 04:12 PM, said:

well what do you mean by incoming side?
the incoming mains - does this test ok within the recommended limits? what is the output from the transformer when commissioning (before it goes wrong obviously)?

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 04:28 PM

The incoming mains is 240v up to the transformer and the output from the transformer is 15v AC

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 04:41 PM

View Postphil_ad, on 30 August 2011 - 04:28 PM, said:

The incoming mains is 240v up to the transformer
still not answering my question, perhaps someone else can help you out here. good luck.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 04:46 PM

i don't understand what you are asking, do you mean the main cable into the house and into the meter? This is all okay, 240 between L-E and L-N and obviously nothing between N-E.. Sorry but not understanding what you mean when say incoming mains. That to me just sounds like your asking for the mains into the panel.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 04:52 PM

View Postphil_ad, on 30 August 2011 - 04:46 PM, said:

i don't understand what you are asking, do you mean the main cable into the house and into the meter? This is all okay, 240 between L-E and L-N and obviously nothing between N-E.. Sorry but not understanding what you mean when say incoming mains. That to me just sounds like your asking for the mains into the panel.
now you answered the question. i'm trying to establish the base line readings here (start with the basics and work your way up and you'll find something wrong somewhere) and "nothing" is not normal. are you sure it's nothing N-E?

Edited by RFS, 30 August 2011 - 04:53 PM.


#11 phil_ad

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 04:55 PM

Well im thinking back a bit now from when they moved in.. Cannot be 100% sure but will double check and get back to you tomorrow. Multimeter is currently still at work on site. cheers for the help so far and will post my readings tomorrow.

#12 jameswilson

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 05:17 PM

if the transformers burning out i would suggest its overloaded.
You cant rely on the fuses to prove its not overloaded as they wont blow till current is past 1.8A and the panel cannot provide that for long.

Need to know your day mode current and battery charge current.

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Try a decent panel instead?
I think this is a cracking little panel for the money. Plus we still have optima 1's we installed in the 80's going strong.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 05:23 PM

View Postjameswilson, on 30 August 2011 - 05:17 PM, said:

if the transformers burning out i would suggest its overloaded.
You cant rely on the fuses to prove its not overloaded as they wont blow till current is past 1.8A and the panel cannot provide that for long.

Need to know your day mode current and battery charge current.


I think this is a cracking little panel for the money. Plus we still have optima 1's we installed in the 80's going strong.


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#14 RFS

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 06:02 PM

Haven't used them to be honest but anything with "optima" in the title suggests to me it's long past it's day..

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 06:44 PM

I installed a load of these a few years back, but once I got onto the Galaxy panels with LCD keypads I gave up trying to understand the stupid LED keypads that the optimas/accentas had!

#16 jameswilson

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 09:13 AM

you can put an lcd keypad on an optima and a prox reader




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