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#1 POULTONASFC

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Posted 25 June 2011 - 10:35 AM

Hi all, this is my first post.

I was wondering is it ok to use staples to fix standard 8 core cable on grade 3 systems. If not why? I have heard a rumour that an SSAIB assesor said you cant use them .

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Posted 25 June 2011 - 11:12 AM

you can use staples to attach to timber,
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Posted 25 June 2011 - 12:57 PM

perfectly OK in the right medium as above.
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Posted 25 June 2011 - 06:55 PM

I know nsi were a bit funny about staple years ago. I've never had an issue with SSAIB though as long as they aren't to far apart.(the staples that is.)

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#5 njinstallation

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 06:57 PM

can you use this on plasterboard in false ceiling ?

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 07:42 PM

View Postnjinstallation, on 06 November 2011 - 06:57 PM, said:

can you use this on plasterboard in false ceiling ?

no
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Posted 06 November 2011 - 08:54 PM

I hate staples we do not use them at all and would be very disapointed if i found any of our lads using them.

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#8 fozzies

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 08:58 PM

Why? If used correctly, surely they save you, and you customer a fortune?

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 09:34 PM

I can understand why people dislike them, used incorrectly they can look disgraceful
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Posted 06 November 2011 - 09:47 PM

Agree. but used correctly a heaven sent boon

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 09:56 PM

Personal taste I guess, I used to work for a co that didn't like staples, everyone had a gun in their bag

Staple gun that is :lol:

Edited by reidy, 06 November 2011 - 09:57 PM.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 11:28 PM

Better surely than 4mm White clips knocked in every 8"-less obtrusive IMHO-and less potential for damage to!.
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Posted 07 November 2011 - 04:16 PM

agreed staples used correctly are fine imo

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 01:52 PM

Can anyone reccomend a good gun / staple size? One tool I don't have which would save me no end of hassle. Not a fan of clips either but sometimes they have to be used!

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 02:56 PM

rapid 28 appear to be the norm?
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Posted 15 November 2011 - 07:52 PM

A large national i used to work for forbid using staple guns

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 07:59 PM

View Postmodernjim, on 15 November 2011 - 07:52 PM, said:

A large national i used to work for forbid using staple guns

Could be any one of them I reckon then judging by the state of the installs I've seen in the past!-any excuse not to use clips, trunking or any other method of cable containment-unless cable tieing to 230v cables counts.
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#18 MrHappy

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 07:59 PM

View Postmodernjim, on 15 November 2011 - 07:52 PM, said:

A large national i used to work for forbid using staple guns

just company policy, there many that don't like them as its easy for an idoit to staple though the cable
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Posted 15 November 2011 - 10:14 PM

Nothing wrong with staple guns in the right hands, I've got a coax staple gun as well, very handy.
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Posted 15 November 2011 - 10:39 PM

Staple guns for 6 core etc = great
but for coax? a no-no imo. if you compress the coax you affect its transmission properties higher up the spectrum, making balancing of systems hard to impossible in some cases.ok, if its only 10 meters of cable, but above that, not worth the risk.
Im speaking from knowledge of large aerial systems, but the principal holds true in cctv cabling too.




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