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[hpotter]

Having no experience of fitting cctv/access in custody suites and having seen video below, i was wondering if anyone can give me some insight.

As i understand it recording in them has to be kept for 90days max to comply with dpa/hra?
Who has access to the footage?
Can gp ask for footage copy as per say gp can in shop?
Is mirror recording (and presume off site?) mandatory or maybe rule of thumb, or is this Just for say gp area cams where say terrorist may attack?
Assume audio with lip sync on all cams in suite?
Assume real time recording all cams, no motion detection?
What criteria for lens/cam choice ie of the identify/recognise/detect/monitor choices whats the general rule for say, cells, or corridors?

anyway the footage

http://www.bbc.co.uk...tshire-11190561

[MrHappy]

hpotter, on 05 September 2010 - 12:28 PM, said:

anyway the footage

http://www.bbc.co.uk...tshire-11190561

don't work..... but this did

http://i.dailymail.c...ideo/police.mov

read it in the mail this morning,

twenty mins of being booked in, then dragged though recption from different direction, fella from the goonies leaves the desk 1hr 20 mins after after we 1st see her 3 mins later see's bundled in the cell, when where in the cell the play back is on super slow 30 sec's or so of bleeding (nose?) took minutes to watch,

I'd rather society be policed by a 6ft3 ex squadie than plastics ?

[Cubit]

I don't trust the fckers. Yet again evidence shows things ain't right.

Seen it first hand. Fckers, the lot of 'em.

[norman]

MrHappy, on 05 September 2010 - 01:48 PM, said:

don't work..... but this did

http://i.dailymail.c...ideo/police.mov

read it in the mail this morning,

twenty mins of being booked in, then dragged though recption from different direction, fella from the goonies leaves the desk 1hr 20 mins after after we 1st see her 3 mins later see's bundled in the cell, when where in the cell the play back is on super slow 30 sec's or so of bleeding (nose?) took minutes to watch,

I'd rather society be policed by a 6ft3 ex squadie than plastics ?

it was her head, she needed stiches, he's been found guilty and will most probably loose his job. She was as you can see in the vid only slight and 59 years old, well hard!

[Cubit]

norman, on 05 September 2010 - 01:55 PM, said:

it was her head, she needed stiches, he's been found guilty and will most probably loose his job. She was as you can see in the vid only slight and 59 years old, well hard!

And looks like he'll be sent down.
..then probably released on appeal!!!

[hpotter]

MrHappy, on 05 September 2010 - 01:48 PM, said:

don't work.....

does for me on ie.

Anyway any info?

hpotter, on 05 September 2010 - 12:28 PM, said:

As i understand it recording in them has to be kept for 90days max to comply with dpa/hra?
Who has access to the footage?
Can gp ask for footage copy as per say gp can in shop?
Is mirror recording (and presume off site?) mandatory or maybe rule of thumb, or is this Just for say gp area cams where say terrorist may attack?
Assume audio with lip sync on all cams in suite?
Assume real time recording all cams, no motion detection?
What criteria for lens/cam choice ie of the identify/recognise/detect/monitor choices whats the general rule for say, cells, or corridors?

[arfur mo]

I seem to remmember something about "30 Days limit recommended" lol!

As that's only recommended could be as long as they (the client) likes.

Who or whom can view? They have to be designated with security measures to keep others out, these people would be management usually.

Camera selection I'd go D1 on this also link any assistance alarms to dvr emergency record. Not dine a custody suit but have done the interview rooms in probation offices, like type if requirements.

Edited by arfur mo, 05 September 2010 - 02:21 PM.

[norman]

Cubit, on 05 September 2010 - 02:01 PM, said:

And looks like he'll be sent down.
..then probably released on appeal!!!

makes you wonder what he's done in the past off camera as he knew there was cctv in the cells, never mind he's only 37, when he's released he can go into the alarm trade.

[MrHappy]

norman, on 05 September 2010 - 02:50 PM, said:

makes you wonder what he's done in the past off camera as he knew there was cctv in the cells,

I would be very interested to see how & why she's outside the cell I assume being shoved back in ?

(Theres 35 mins of footage of being dragged though repection & appearing in the cell we've not seen?)

[norman]

I thought he was 'placing' her in for the first time, never thought he might have been re-placing her in it? She was arrested for failing to provide a specimen but she seemed compliant.

norman, on 05 September 2010 - 01:55 PM, said:

it was her head, she needed stiches, he's been found guilty and will most probably loose his job. She was as you can see in the vid only slight and 59 years old, well hard!

[Specialist]

Ah our protectors of Law & Order, don't they make you so proud?

[Adi]

just seen the clip on the news

hope the ****** gets six months a #### up the #### on a daily basis

[Specialist]

Adi, on 05 September 2010 - 05:03 PM, said:

just seen the clip on the news

hope the ****** gets six months a #### up the #### on a daily basis

Probably end up on the block on rule 43, would'nt put him in with all those bad people would they

[Cubit]

Specialist, on 05 September 2010 - 05:08 PM, said:

Probably end up on the block on rule 43, would'nt put him in with all those bad people would they

What goes around comes around.

[MrHappy]

so you chaps are from the ACAB school of thought ?

maybe I'm being naive but there something missing about this story ?

[Adi]

she didnt need to be chuck on the floor in her cell, she wasnt aggresive

[Cubit]

MrHappy, on 05 September 2010 - 05:56 PM, said:

so you chaps are from the ACAB school of thought ?

maybe I'm being naive but there something missing about this story ?

Something not quite right about it, i agree.
But his behaviour was bang out of order.

[arfur mo]

Did anyone see that clip of an elderly man having been chased and eventually ripped out of his range rover?

The 'serious offence' was not wearing his seat belt.

Thuggery is rife as that guy bowled over by riot policeman - who got away with it, plain simple and filmed .

she is lucky to be alive at least!

Arfur

[norman]

had he stopped when requested then it would not have happened! Deserved it imo stupid old git.

[reidy]

Thats it