The Security Installer The Security Installer RSS feed http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:18:14 +0000 15 Fm4000E Alarm Problem Need Help Quick http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32568-fm4000e-alarm-problem-need-help-quick/ in the manual its states the tamper button is flashing due to a unit being tampered with (must be the one i changed the batteries on)
but says i must contact the alram company???
its making a beeping noise every now and again

anyone got any ideas before i hit it with a hammer

thanks]]> Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:18:14 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32568-fm4000e-alarm-problem-need-help-quick/ Boo http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32567-boo/
so.....

HELLO!

well thats the pleasentries out the way now it seems theres several thousand posts to scan through.....

I might be here some time so do drop by and say hello :teehee:]]> Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:25:08 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32567-boo/ Keep Or Delete? http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32565-keep-or-delete/ Do you keep or delete your work/business emails? Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:58:28 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32565-keep-or-delete/ So, Bs 8243:2010 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32564-so-bs-82432010/
Just skimming through, noticed you can now use internal prox, and PTS to set (again)! Whats the score with external prox now? Same as before? Swipe, then terminate,or would this now not conform?]]> Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:31:54 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32564-so-bs-82432010/ Hello . http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32563-hello/ Hello, I'm new in the forum , and I'd say I'm new to the security system industry . I need to learn a lot , that's why I'm here .]]> Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:30:50 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32563-hello/ Hi All http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32562-hi-all/
I am new here, I have recently set up my own electricians company, and going through the process of getting registered with NAPIT,

I would like to specialise in security though, including intruder alarms and cctv, I will try and find the correct section of the forum to post in, but I was wondering if any training courses are available

Thanks

Kev]]> Sat, 04 Feb 2012 08:36:39 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32562-hi-all/ Is Your Alarm Box Here? http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32561-is-your-alarm-box-here/

http://burglaralarmbritain.me/about/]]> Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:25:18 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32561-is-your-alarm-box-here/ Education http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32558-education/
https://enrolments.macclesfield.ac.uk/coursedisplay.aspx?CourseInformationID=7963]]> Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:54:53 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32558-education/ Lps 1277 Signalling http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32557-lps-1277-signalling/ Had another request for LPS 1277 signalling today from the insurer rather than the broker. Anyone else seeing this yet? Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:00:40 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32557-lps-1277-signalling/ Guardtec http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32556-guardtec/ Tried to default a Guardtec 300.No info on Risco site any one put me right please? Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:38:56 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32556-guardtec/ Hi Looking For A Download Of A Fusionsea 4 Channel Dvr Firmware http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32555-hi-looking-for-a-download-of-a-fusionsea-4-channel-dvr-firmware/ hi just installed a fusionsea cctv kit but has come without the firmware disc can anyone help as i cant find a download anywhere Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:11:23 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32555-hi-looking-for-a-download-of-a-fusionsea-4-channel-dvr-firmware/ Ag Neovo Monitor Psu http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32554-ag-neovo-monitor-psu/
got a price of £49 for a genuine psu plus £12.00 carriage, but just wondering are their any other cheaper psu's that will work?

cheers]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:15:37 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32554-ag-neovo-monitor-psu/ Small Internal Dome http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32552-small-internal-dome/
A fixed lens would do.

Any ideas ??

Thanks in advanced

Andy]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:18:49 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32552-small-internal-dome/ Bell Box Failed http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32551-bell-box-failed/ thanks.]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:45:15 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32551-bell-box-failed/ Cctv Question http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32550-cctv-question/
If he was broken into, and say they took his DVR, is there a piece of equipment I could install as basically a secondary DVR elsewhere in the house, so all the data was not lost.

I have a Samsung SRD-1650DC DVR

Thanks.]]> Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:26:49 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32550-cctv-question/ Nsi Consultant Required http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32549-nsi-consultant-required/
We are finally going for our NSI Silver this year, having been trading for 5 years now.

Can anyone recommend a good consultant who has had experience of helping companies like ours with our accreditation process?

We are not only interested in becoming accredited but we also want to use this opportunity to refine our internal processes and procedures so we are ready for the next stage of growth.

Main criteria:
- someone who has helped a number of companies achieve NSI Silver (we specialise in Access Control / CCTV / Intruder)
- familiar with the latest standards

Nice to have:
- experience as an engineer (i.e. not just an ex-NSI auditor)
- health & safety / risk mngt. awareness
- familarity with operations and sales within an installation company working with end-user clients (we don't do subbie work)

We are set on NSI so would appreciate not to get into the NSI vs SSAIB debate if at all possible :)

Thanks in advance!]]> Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:16:46 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32549-nsi-consultant-required/ Battery Sizes http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32548-battery-sizes/

Just a quick one to see if anyone can help me out, im an electrical contractor who is starting to get more security work and am wondering if you can help me out.

How do i go around calculating the battery size for any of the systems im installing.



heres an example of one of my jobs


19 x Pyronix me blue detectors
1 x 16 Ohm internal sounder
1 x pyronix deltabell external sounder
1 x scantronic 65en panel
3 x ms nodes

can someone help me out here and give me details on how to calculate this.]]> Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:07:01 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32548-battery-sizes/ Additional Voltage Free Output http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32547-additional-voltage-free-output/
I need to utilise an additional voltage free output to control an electronic water control valve from the panel. The water panel utilises a voltage free contact which can be either NO or NC. The problem is that the iON 40 only has two voltage free outputs which already used for the siren and strobe. Ouputs 3 and 4 are transistorised outputs giving 12v when inactive and 0v when active although this can be changed on the panel. My first idea is to utilise a 12v dc relay which is fed by output 3 with the contacts from the water panel connected to the relay output.

Any other suggestions?]]> Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:54:41 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32547-additional-voltage-free-output/ Bell Box Has Stopped Working After Sd1 Install http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32546-bell-box-has-stopped-working-after-sd1-install/
I have a Mevier TS700 and its been running fine up until I started messing around with it, need some advice.

The bell box no longer works, The alarm still fully works but no bell box or sd1 working.

Last week I purchased a Mevier SD+1 telephone dialler as I want my mobile to ring soon as the alarm goes off, not just the bell box.

So i connected the trigger input (selv) to my alarm ts 700 panel where the bell box is connected (trig) then 0v & +12v to the Aux 0v and 12v on my ts700.

The SD1+ powers up and i can do a test call to my mobile and works great.

Now i test the alarm by setting if off and it goes off but now siren nor sd1 dialing.

Is anyone able to tell me where i have gone wrong ?

Thanks]]> Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:19:09 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32546-bell-box-has-stopped-working-after-sd1-install/ Airlock http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32542-airlock/ It's been a long time since I have done a airlock with two maglocks and contacts so I can't remember
Has anyone got a drawing for this

Thanks]]> Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:10:01 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32542-airlock/ Galaxy G2 Or Texecom Premiere 24 Of Veritas Excel http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32540-galaxy-g2-or-texecom-premiere-24-of-veritas-excel/
I'm trying to decide on an alarm system for my small workshop.
The workshop is a converted garage with medium size window and door at front and very narrow but wide window at the back.

My requirements at present are:

EOL
2 internal pir / 1 external
3 shock / mag contacts
Smoke & fire alarm

I may require the ability to turn on and off lights etc at a later date and I know the texecom has a controller for additional devices.

I was initially looking at the Veritas Excel as this seemed more than adequate for a one room workshop.
But I haven't been encouraged by reviews on here about the veritas range.

If that is a bad panel, I can get the galaxy g2 with Prox keypad and two tags for around £130, or for similar money I can get the premiere 24 with prox keypad and two tags also. The one advantage with the g2 is that it has a built in pstn communicator which would be nice I guess.

So which panel would you guys recommend and finally, I have some texecom impaq plus with contacts, are these okay or should I look at something else to cover my windows such as the viper glx from Honeywell.

Thanks.
Oh and I forgot to say ello... ello.

Daniel]]> Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:41:08 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32540-galaxy-g2-or-texecom-premiere-24-of-veritas-excel/ Any Adt Cctv Installers ? http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32539-any-adt-cctv-installers/
Obviously the existing system is coming out - my question to the adt guys, is : exactly how much is leased - cameras and recording kit / adpro I expect to be leased, but what about the redwalls, speaker horns, cabling etc.

Just want to go 'forearmed' when this quote is prepared - we'd replace cable as a matter of course, as the last lot is at least 6 years old, but dont want surprises along the lines, if the camera posts go missing !.]]> Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:22:34 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32539-any-adt-cctv-installers/ Hello http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32538-hello/
My name is greg im an installation engineer for ADT, i used to be a member of this forum and trade, about 4 years ago,
just thought id look it up again.]]> Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:20:15 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32538-hello/ Accord Xpc To New Pyronix Deltabell http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32537-accord-xpc-to-new-pyronix-deltabell/ Im not a fitter but have a good knowledge of electronics and diy, just a bit puzzled, can anyone advise...

I inherited an accord xpc alarm with my flat, I disabled it and removed it for a full plaster and skimming of walls and ceiling. Now I have the chance to refit I have found the original bell box has been damaged from being stored in our garage.

Reading online the pyronix deltabell seemed a suitable replacement. When I removed out the main panel, door sensors and pirs, I just cut the cables still attached and then when it came time to refit I just ran new core and reattached using the same colour combos.

Wiring at the panel for the sounder was as follows...

Bell + = brown
Bell - = blue
Strobe = green
BTMP -R = yellow
BTMP - = black

Of course now that I've realised that I threw the original bell box in the bin without writing down connections, I'm now can't remember how these were terminated on the original bell box either.

So With the pyronix I'm presented with the following terminals...

T (from their example diagram seems to be a neg connection)
T
Eng hold
STB
Bell
+ 12v
- 12v

The obvious I've wired as such....

T = black (& link to -12v)
T = yellow
Eng hold =
STB = green
Bell =
+ 12v = brown
- 12v = blue

Confused what should connect to my bell terminal in the sounder and also if these are totally correct ? can anyone advise...]]> Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:05:21 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32537-accord-xpc-to-new-pyronix-deltabell/ Samsung Dvr Help - Hard Drives http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32533-samsung-dvr-help-hard-drives/
Both 16 channel

SVR-1680 --- 4tb

&

SRD-1650DC --- 1tb


simple question, can I change the hard drives around so the SRD has 4tb and the SVR has 1tb and how if I can?

cheers,]]> Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:54:49 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32533-samsung-dvr-help-hard-drives/ Bs5839 Escape Route Definition http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32530-bs5839-escape-route-definition/ It doesn't normally bother me but this particular property has a large bedroom with a large ensuite round the corner, the nearest sounder is 2 meters down the hallway, but if you were in the ensuite with all the doors closed the sound would have 2-3 doors to travel through!
Not going to get 65dba in the ensuite, would it be a best practice to fit another sounder in the bedroom?

Would really appreciate your views on this one gents........

Many thanks in advance..]]> Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:59:47 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32530-bs5839-escape-route-definition/ Customers Smoking http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32526-customers-smoking/
Don't know the make, or care, but stink, did they ever, the smoke got into my system for the rest of the day/evening, b***** awful.

Shower and change of clothes as soon as I got home.

Q. Are there any regulations relating to working in these conditions?

It would be good to know before I decide to refuse to go there any more.]]> Thu, 26 Jan 2012 06:57:46 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32526-customers-smoking/ Tools Bargains http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32523-tools-bargains/
picked up a ratched screwdriver frm screwfix £2.99 with 6 bits - bargain i think lol over £4.00 saving

anyone else?]]> Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:44:54 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32523-tools-bargains/ Viper Glx Problem Scantronic 9751 Panel http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32522-viper-glx-problem-scantronic-9751-panel/
Please can you help I have 2-3 Viper GLX's on one Zone connected to Scan 9751 Panel, Due to constraints with using existing wiring and plaster they are wired with 4 core. Please see the diagram i have attached to explain the best i can, i have wired the alarm in series and -ve terminal is connected to the OP3 at the panel as Shock reset going by the manual. I have been told this its possible to wire in this way.

Problem i am getting is that when i arm the system it states the Zone is open (only with the shocks) it arms successfully however and if I bang them twice they do correctly set the alarm off

Any ideas on improvements or any links i have missed out?


Many Thanks
B

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]]> Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:25:28 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32522-viper-glx-problem-scantronic-9751-panel/ Menvier Ts690R Beeps Regularly http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32521-menvier-ts690r-beeps-regularly/
I've got a bit of a problem with my TS690R panel in that it sounds its 'normal' triple beep three times at intervals of 30 minutes for long periods then goes quiet for an hour or two then repeats the process.

It doesn't matter if the the system is set or not it does it regardless.

Nothing appears on the display. I've gone through the config and checked, all seems well. It passes a walk-through check and reacts normally to the front door opening

It's just those beeping beeps at all hours of the morning spoiling my beauty sleep

Anyone have any idea the problem might be?

THere are two PIRs, two magnetic door detectors and five vipers all separate devices

Thanks

Jmac]]> Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:24:26 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32521-menvier-ts690r-beeps-regularly/ Help Needed With Old Ts800 Keypad http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32519-help-needed-with-old-ts800-keypad/
I have a spare TS800 remote keypad but my alarm servicing company refuses to fit it and insists I need a new alarm system – this seems expensive overkill as it’s just a temperature related fault with the keys on the keypad!

Please can somebody tell me if I disconnect the existing pad and swap it for the spare, will the alarm systems recognise the new remote keypad or would I need to somehow program it to the alarm control box?

Also, the keypad has a tamper switch on it behind the cover, will the alarm go off when I remove the keypad cover? Presumably I can stop the alarm if it goes off by entering the code in the other remote keypad?

Thanks,

MWO]]> Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:22:26 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32519-help-needed-with-old-ts800-keypad/ Businessman Forged Alarm Records. http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32518-businessman-forged-alarm-records/
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/8192210.Oswaldtwistle_businessman_forged_alarm_records_after_burglary/?ref=rss]]> Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:36:46 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32518-businessman-forged-alarm-records/ Gamma 7 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32514-gamma-7/
http://www.gamma7.co.uk/kitsandprices.html

And are they any good? Can't see any reviews of them perhaps thats a sign :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:]]> Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:16:03 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32514-gamma-7/ Hello http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32513-hello/ Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:10:04 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32513-hello/ Please Help! D Tec 4 Alarm System http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32511-please-help-d-tec-4-alarm-system/ Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:01:49 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32511-please-help-d-tec-4-alarm-system/ Avtech Hard Drive Fail / Who Distributes Them ? http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32507-avtech-hard-drive-fail-who-distributes-them/
Have opened it up, and its got a 500gb seagate hdd. Screws look although someones been in there before.

Drive is dead as a duck. I can warranty it with seagate, however I cant seem to find any replacement drives at reasonable prices (IDE drives seem to be in very short supply !).

Anyone tried using one of the sata converters, and putting a sata drive in there ?.

Of am I flogging a dead horse, and its cheaper and better to get a new dvr ?]]> Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:50:12 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32507-avtech-hard-drive-fail-who-distributes-them/ En 12094-1 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32495-en-12094-1/
Got a meeting tomorrow with a customer with regards "Hold-Off" buttons on a gaseous fire suppression system.

I know what BS 7273-1 and EN 15004-1 say with regards "Hold-Off" buttons, but both standards make reference to EN 12094-1 and I am not going to be able to get to a copy of the regs until Tuesday, which doesnot help me at all.

In summary, anyone know what EN 12094-1 states with regards "Hold-Off" buttons?

Thanks in advance....]]> Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:53:57 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32495-en-12094-1/ Hello http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32494-hello/
Just a quick introduction to myself and what I do.

My name is Malcolm Evans, aka "Titch", and I am a Fire Suppression Engineer for Cannon Fire Protection Services in New Ollerton, Newark, Nottinghamshire. Won't go into too much detail as to what services the company offers here, but we operate throughout the UK.

I specialise in:

* Gaseous Fire Suppression systems, both electrically and mechanically; Installation and servicing (Including FM-200, NOVEC 1230, Argon, Argonite, Inergen, CO2)
* Installation and servicing of Watermist, Fire Trace and Pyrogen fire suppression systems.
* Ansul & Amerex R-102 Kitchen Fire Suppression systems; Design, installation and servicing
* Conventional, Addressable and Radio fire systems; Installation and servicing
* Room Integrity Testing (Retrotec)

Been in the industry for 2 years. Prior to that I was in the construction industry (Electrical) for many years before being made redundant.

Looking to share knowledge and information both ways. I don't know everything and always looking to learn more!!

Catch you around the forum.]]> Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:46:42 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32494-hello/ Nexus 8 And Wireless http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32486-nexus-8-and-wireless/
Thanks]]> Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:42:50 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32486-nexus-8-and-wireless/ Honeywell Galaxy Flex 100 Rs Problem http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32485-honeywell-galaxy-flex-100-rs-problem/

Many Thanks
Kyle]]> Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:52:28 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32485-honeywell-galaxy-flex-100-rs-problem/ Gloves http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32484-gloves/
Im after some which can be worn several times then binned when too dirty, for warmth and protection, and can still be used when fitting BNCs for example.

A link to a suitable product on either Toolstation or Screwfix would be perfect.

Thanks.]]> Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:56:20 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32484-gloves/ <![CDATA[Dualpath Gsm & Pstn Speech Dialler]]> http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32482-dualpath-gsm-pstn-speech-dialler/ Does any one know if any manufacturers make a dual path (gsm & pstn) speech dialler. Just wondering, as i'm a newly set up installer and i think this would be something that would appeal to my customers. I am not yet NSI/SSAIB certified and just thought this would be a more reliable form of communication not involving the police. No monitoring costs (apart from mobile sim and telephone line costs), no URN cost, no nsi/ssaib required and secure dual path signalling. Any Thoughts?]]> Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:11:57 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32482-dualpath-gsm-pstn-speech-dialler/ Scantronic Downloader http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32478-scantronic-downloader/ i tried to connect with scantronic downloader to a 65en panel
i used a syslink 56k pci modem
when i dialled the panel i receved the message NO CARRIER
i dialled the pc from panel and i made connection
so whay is working one way and not the other?
with my laptop with internal modem i managed to do connection both ways
regards andy]]> Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:22:23 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32478-scantronic-downloader/ 9751 Help http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32477-9751-help/
I have recently (today fitted two additional smoke detectors to my scantronic 9751. All was fine till i came out of engineering mode, the alarm was saying expander 1 missing - the smoke detectors and a couple of other zones are wired into this expander. I then did the following:

1. Checked all wiring and it appeared that the 12v incoming from the main panel was loose, i corrected this and tried again - it was still not having any of it.

2. I went to the main panel, removed the battery and the fuse the outside bell went off (obviously as it should) reconnected the battery put fuse back in and the alarm reset - on inital power up keypad went off showing lid tamper - again as expected.

3. Did a walk test - now no zones / detectors that are wired into the expander will show up - LED's are coming onto the detectors but they will not trigger any alarm.

4. checked what expanders were present according to the panel - this is saying none.......

Now i am stuck can anyone offer any other advise, have i fried the expander by the 12v being loose? Any help our guidence would be aprechiated......]]> Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:42:48 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32477-9751-help/ Smoke Alarms http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32470-smoke-alarms/
I am about to fit two texecom smoke alarms to a scantronic system, the system has resistors fitted on every zone, do i need to fit resistors in the smokes as well? there is no mention of them in the manual.

Many Thanks]]> Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:04:57 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32470-smoke-alarms/ Fire Extinguisher Maintenance Info http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32466-fire-extinguisher-maintenance-info/
ive had a look at the BAFE and FIA sites, but thought id also ask on here

cheers for any info]]> Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:32:19 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32466-fire-extinguisher-maintenance-info/ Hello From Alarm Response And Keyholding Ltd http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32461-hello-from-alarm-response-and-keyholding-ltd/ Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:39:12 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32461-hello-from-alarm-response-and-keyholding-ltd/ Keypad On View... http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32457-keypad-on-view/
upgrading a system in the coming weeks where the current keypad is not in view from the outside of the property. However, the plan is to install a different sized keypad that will have to be installed elsewhere in the premises - meaning it can, if you strain to look through the window, be seen from the outside...

is this against regs? I always thought as long as the keypad didn't show the system status and was within a protected zone area, it was ok? Maybe not! Any advice folks? (It's grade 2 system).]]> Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:23:11 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32457-keypad-on-view/ What Paperwork Do You Keep? http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32456-what-paperwork-do-you-keep/
cheers]]> Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:07:24 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32456-what-paperwork-do-you-keep/ Hello! http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32453-hello/ Mon, 16 Jan 2012 21:26:12 +0000 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/32453-hello/