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thats where I thought you where going, however Jack can probably wire the kitchen with out burning down the house ?

Hi Datadiffusion, replacement keypad went in like dream no problems to report (so far) just waiting for the tenants reaction. Many thanks for your comments on Cooper/Eaton I had not found them very helpful at the time of purchasing the keypad. Regards Jack

Hi Datadiffusion I take it you mean ---- Off

f'ck me its jurassic sparks.... welcome to the forum

it snowed heavily on Wednesday, there was about 3" of snow laid on the unclassified rd between a village & a hamlet the road is fast & sweeping, a touch bumpy but I'm pottering along at steady pace, as I reach the right hand bend I realise I can't quite tell the difference the road & the verges, I've misjudge the bend its tighter than I thought I'm going too fast & are heading into the trees, I just miss ending up in the ditch more though luck than talent.... I stop further up the road to check for damage, there's still an 1" of snow all over the front end..... imprinted in the snow theres loads of small leaf prints, I use a hat to clear the lights, grill bumper ect.... not a mark on it